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Why Don’t Smartphones Have A “Guest Mode”?

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Re: Why Don’t Smartphones Have A “Guest Mode”?

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I'm more bewildered to why no tablets seem to have multi-user functionality. In my experience, tablets get shared far more often than phones.

My iPad app does something like this: http://switchapp.net/

It's not full user accounts, but a multi-user web browser. You can protect your bookmarks, logins & web history and it also has a guest mode.

Re: Why Don’t Smartphones Have A “Guest Mode”?

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Web browsers have been around since 92, first usable guest mode [1] on a web browser appeared 2005 or so. Give the phones a little more time, and it will get there too.

[1] mozilla had multiple profile support since forever, but it required you to restart the browser with a command line argument, or requires you to pick a profile every time, and even then it's not "guest" profile -- it's another profile with history and all. When I needed multiple profiles, it was always easier to set up another user on Linux. [On windows, at least in the 2000 days, the new browser would defer to the old one that was already on screen even if they were RunAs different users -- a different "desktop session" was required for separation. bleh]

Re: Why Don’t Smartphones Have A “Guest Mode”?

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My girlfriend worked at bank that did this. The alert PIN was your PIN backwards. I don't know if they still do this or not.

I heard about this before. According to Snopes it's false although it may have been implemented in A few places. http://www.snopes.com/business/bank/pinalert.asp http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATM_SafetyPIN_software

Thanks for the wiki article. I've heard about it and was pretty sure it's a hoax (mostly because of the palindromes).

Re: Why Don’t Smartphones Have A “Guest Mode”?

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Will people change banks for it (compared to say, vague promises of better customer service)? Will people pay a premium for it (compared to say, offering more air miles)? I'd be willing to bet that for most people it simply isn't worth the investment for them.

Will people remember to use 1235 ONLY in an emergency? And never accidentally use it? And never use it when they feel "threatened" by the scary looking hipster hanging out by the ATM? I would tend to guess it would cause more problems than it solves.

Exactly! I would just be repeating what you say, but I'll say it anyhow. False positive rate must be considered before putting such a measure in place.

Re: Why Don’t Smartphones Have A “Guest Mode”?

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Sounds really cool, but I'm not sure what problem it actually solves. Typical ATM robbery today probably ends with the cash coming out of the machine and the robber running away, hopefully without injuring or killing their victim. Victim calls police, they take a report, get the video from the ATM cam, bank refunds the stolen cash, done. In the scenario that you're proposing, the only advantage is that police are cal…

Perhaps the fake PIN would only show a preset of money in the account (and still call the cops)? If the robber didn't know the victim, they might buy it.

I think that's the far more sensible option.

Sure, they might get more violent and say 'use the real pin', but honestly, how are they going to know that there isn't only 67.87 in the bank?

Re: Why Don’t Smartphones Have A “Guest Mode”?

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Somewhat related: I've long wondered why ATM cards don't have something similar. 1234 is my regular PIN. 1235 is my help I'm being robbed PIN -- it dispenses the cash, calls the cops, and tags the video.

Seems to me a better idea is that you put in a code, which locks your account for a few hours and displays a "this ATM is broken" message, taking it offline for a few mins.

Re: Why Don’t Smartphones Have A “Guest Mode”?

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Somewhat related: I've long wondered why ATM cards don't have something similar. 1234 is my regular PIN. 1235 is my help I'm being robbed PIN -- it dispenses the cash, calls the cops, and tags the video.

This is known as a "Duress Code" and it's sometimes found in alarm systems as a code which will disarm the alarm and still call the police.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duress_code

Re: Why Don’t Smartphones Have A “Guest Mode”?

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post #127

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How so? The officer was the one that suggested the possibility in this scenario.

Yes, but the answer shows that you were aware of it before, which means you have already come in contact with the concept, leading to a higher probability for you to actually use it.

Then again, a tech savvy user that encrypts his drive and claims he/she haven't a slightest idea what the officer is talking about is probably in many cases way more suspicious. At least to an officer that is informed enough to bring that up.
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