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South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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I'm a middle aged man living alone. My plan for when I need to die is to buy top loaded freezer and prepay my electric bill to give people at least few years to find my body, keeping the process as easy, for the unfortunates who do, and as clean as possible.

You think your demise will wait for you to step into the fridge? Rather than making these arrangements wouldn’t it be easier to connect to people in the same predicament and check on eachother from time to time?

Article mentions suicide so a freezer can double as a very private "exit pod".

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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post #5

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What are some examples of proposed solutions that the progressive left would oppose?

Banning birth control. I don't support doing that myself, but if you look at the US two of the demographics with the highest reproduction rates are Mormons and Hispanic Catholics. Both follow religious prohibitions against birth control. The progressive left firmly supports the right to an abortion as well as the right to use contraceptives so that answers your question. From a demographic standpoint what's basically…

Consider the prioritization of abstinence-only education in the early 2000s. Did that produce pro-natalist effects?

LDS fertility has dropped to replacement level rates. Church membership has been dropping, as well.

https://religionnews.com/2019/06/15/the-incredible-shrinking...

Latino birth rates have been declining as well-

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/longevity/58...

> Muslims have a very high birth rate too

Muslims are not a monolithic bloc.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/15/iran-bans-vase...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-01/while-asi...

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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I'm a middle aged man living alone. My plan for when I need to die is to buy top loaded freezer and prepay my electric bill to give people at least few years to find my body, keeping the process as easy, for the unfortunates who do, and as clean as possible.

I think someone will notice when you fail to pay the electric bill. But will someone notice before the freezer thaws completely?

If I stop paying other bills but have electric prepaid it should work out.

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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post #85

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I think he doesn't want the people who eventually find him to have to deal with a decayed corpse, so they'll hop into a top-loaded freezer when they feel death is near to save them the hassle.

So many flaws in this plan. It's hard to know when is the "right time" for such a move.

I agree that it's geared more towards voluntary departure. So it's not a fix-all for the entirety of the problem mentioned in the article but some of the deaths the article talks about are suicides. Given that we are talking about middle aged lonely men I'd guess it might be a significant part.

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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But like how would one know they are going to die and crawl in? That sounds impossible and/or extremely painful. You could die 20 years ahead of time this way. A better solution seems to be something like a Fitbit or Apple Watch with a dead man’s switch feature that calls in every day. But honestly this all seems like an absurd thing to worry about.

Hook up an apple watch or similar device to you while you live in the freezer that isn't turned on. Perhaps you just sleep in it. API call triggers if you die and it turns on, sends money to your utility provider from your bank.

Or just put a freezer on a timer so it kicks in automatically if you don't periodically bump up the timer.

But the ventilation required to live in it would mess up energy efficiency and cutting out the air on timer seems a bit risky.

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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As with any male-specific problem, the progressive left will blame it on patriarchy and oppose any solution.

What are some examples of proposed solutions that the progressive left would oppose?

One solution that the progressive left would surely not oppose would be reducing maximum acceptable work hours, cracking down on business forcing employees to work long hours on a daily basis. It wrecks social life. It's worse now that it became unacceptable to try fulfill some social needs at work. For example, trying to date coworkers became almost automatically equated to sexual harassment or stalking.

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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But like how would one know they are going to die and crawl in? That sounds impossible and/or extremely painful. You could die 20 years ahead of time this way. A better solution seems to be something like a Fitbit or Apple Watch with a dead man’s switch feature that calls in every day. But honestly this all seems like an absurd thing to worry about.

I’m pretty sure there is one reliable way to predict one’s death, and I figure that’s the insinuation here. You’d need to be sure that someone would come looking for you before the power runs out otherwise it just a delay. My plan is to take increasingly death defying risks until my number comes up, that or paddle out into the ocean with a boat full of home made explosives.

You can stop paying all your other bills and taxes. That bound to turn some heads in your direction.

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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post #125

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Activities have increasingly become profit focused. Not sure why friends couldn’t also be.

It's already a reality for dating. Ask the likes of Tinder. Still it didn't become any better.

tinder's business goal aligns with people coming back to "try again" forever

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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post #6

I'm a middle aged man living alone. My plan for when I need to die is to buy top loaded freezer and prepay my electric bill to give people at least few years to find my body, keeping the process as easy, for the unfortunates who do, and as clean as possible.

That is not the appropriate way to celebrate your 11'000 karma points :-) may 2023 bring all

Let's hope for the best. :-)

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

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post #90

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Dying in a reading club seems messier.

It could be any club. The idea is that you create relationships where someone is going to notice you are missing.

Yeah, but this seems like burdening other people with future contact with death that they didn't sign up for when they joined the book club.
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