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Should I step down as head of Twitter? I will abide by the results of this poll

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Post by slaw »

bilbo0s wrote: post #108
TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #85

I voted No because this is the most interesting content to come out of Twitter in years and the spice must flow. It would've been fine if he published planned policy changes and asked the community for feedback before putting it in place. But actually making random policy changes and then rolling it back hours later is such bad form. The latest policy changes were so half-assed and dumb that it makes me wonder what's…

who do you think he'll chose as his successor? And how long before he has another poll on whether or not to fire them? It's his thought process that is the problem. I feel Twitter would have died Elon, or no Elon. But this sort of spectacular flameout ending is really what Elon brings to the table because his leadership style does not lend itself to stability.

Elon Musk. He could step down and ascend.

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Post by layer8 »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #85

I voted No because this is the most interesting content to come out of Twitter in years and the spice must flow. It would've been fine if he published planned policy changes and asked the community for feedback before putting it in place. But actually making random policy changes and then rolling it back hours later is such bad form. The latest policy changes were so half-assed and dumb that it makes me wonder what's…

I voted Yes because too many people’s time is being wasted with all that drama.

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Post by prawn »

He's realised it's not in his best interests to be there, but can't mentally tolerate the idea of supporters thinking he's quitting or there against his will. Which is why I think he frames these decisions as a vote. If the vote doesn't go the way he wants, he'll try it again later, come up with another reason or whatever. It's easier to ascribe blame for something that goes wrong if it was a popular vote rather than a personal decision.

I suspect his personality means that he gets a lot of satisfaction from fawning fans, but at some point the reality hits of the Twitter saga's impact on Tesla and more. Like he's trying to kick some sort of addiction.

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Post by [deleted] »

grecy wrote: post #94
ckastner wrote: post #36

In the six weeks he's been CEO, he totally gutted Twitter, and chased away who knows how many advertisers. There's no reasonable way to right that ship. I think he knows he's on the Titanic. I think he's looking for a pretense to get out, to stop this from taking TSLA down with it even further. TSLA is down -50% in three months, whereas the S&P500 is flat.

What's interesting though is that it's now his private play-toy. If you want to buy a $1,000,000 Ferrari and thrash it into oblivion in 1 week that is totally your choice, have fun with that. It wouldn't be a free country if people could stop you doing so. He's doing the same thing here, he just has more money to play with, which I think it what people are ultimately annoyed about. Also worth pointing out that for ye…

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Post by koboll »

ckastner wrote: post #36

In the six weeks he's been CEO, he totally gutted Twitter, and chased away who knows how many advertisers. There's no reasonable way to right that ship. I think he knows he's on the Titanic. I think he's looking for a pretense to get out, to stop this from taking TSLA down with it even further. TSLA is down -50% in three months, whereas the S&P500 is flat.

Yep. He said just now that Twitter is "in the fast lane to bankruptcy":

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604626103326253056

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Post by bb88 »

pseudo0 wrote: post #96
wmf wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone with expertise in social media hates Elon's high-level vision.

What it looks like Elon is trying to do is: - Level the playing field between the "blue-checks" and everyone else. I think the intent of that is to encourage the 90% of people who passively consume content to engage more, and encourage lurkers without accounts to sign up. - Reduce the dependency on advertisers by pivoting to a model that is partly user-funded. Reddit seems to have had some success with this, for exam…

> ... probably in an attempt to rope back in users who moved to right-wing Twitter clones.

The problem with Twitter isn't free speech, but objective reality. There's only room for one reality on Twitter -- not two, or three, or four.

Truth Social and the right wing platforms don't challenge people's view that the 2020 election was a fraud, that pizza gate really happened, so they will probably continue now as they are.

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Post by rayiner »

kevingadd wrote: post #100
memish wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a salient point. Biased, uneven, nontransparent moderation was always happening with weak justification, it was just done by unaccountable people and propagandized as righteous. Remember people getting banned for saying "learn to code", disallowing certain news links even in DMs, shadowbanning undesirables with no transparency.

"unbiased moderation" is fundamentally impossible for an international service like Twitter with millions of users. Each country has its own rules about which content you are allowed to post and it has its own regulatory agencies that may demand you behave in a certain way. Your moderators will all apply their own cultural norms to their own behavior as well. I agree that it's not "righteous" somehow but the idea tha…

> unbiased moderation" is fundamentally impossible for an international service like Twitter with millions of users.

Especially given that the pool of California tech people from which Twitter might draw moderators are to the left of 99% of that international community of users.

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Post by mastax »

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #63
minimaxir wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last month he implied he was looking for a successor: https://www.axios.com/2022/11/16/elon-musk-twitter-ceo-new-l... Although I'm not sure who would want to run Twitter now.

I'm sure any of the goons who helped plan this debacle after he was forced to buy^H^H^H make good on his agreement to buy it would be delighted to run it.

He wasn't forced to buy Twitter. He bought Twitter and then was indirectly forced to follow through with the purchase contract that he already made.

Re: Should I step down as head of Twitter? I will abide by the results of this poll

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Post by abnry »

layer8 wrote: post #132
TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #85

I voted No because this is the most interesting content to come out of Twitter in years and the spice must flow. It would've been fine if he published planned policy changes and asked the community for feedback before putting it in place. But actually making random policy changes and then rolling it back hours later is such bad form. The latest policy changes were so half-assed and dumb that it makes me wonder what's…

I voted Yes because too many people’s time is being wasted with all that drama.

I voted Yes because I want someone who has principles and doesn't act on personal whim.
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