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Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by legutierr » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 6:14 PM UTC

afandian wrote: post #44

m4lvin wrote: post #24

Note that Mastodon is third in the list. I consider that a success. 1. They ignore you. 2. They laugh at you. 3. They fight you. <<<--- we are here. 4. You win.

I mean, what a great way to find out about alternatives. I'd never heard of "Post" and "Nostr".

Nostr is perhaps the most interesting of the list. Fully decentralized; messages are cryptographically signed; users are identified by their private keys; following is done on the client side, with no stateful server-side component; messages broadcast via stateless relays.

https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr

https://github.com/aljazceru/awesome-nostr

Overall design seems very simple. It feels a bit like email, in the sense that you could probably put together a barebones implementation like sendmail and still be fully functional.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by nonbirithm » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 6:14 PM UTC

choult wrote: post #19

"Thin-skinned narcissist buys criticism machine." This is not "free speech absolutism" in the slightest. It's not even business-savvy. Elon's mask has truly cracked, and he proves he is nothing but a febrile mind who has bought into his own hype.

Pure speculation, but maybe this was exactly what he wanted. He originally didn't want to buy Twitter after changing his mind, he was forced to. Maybe this is in a sense his retribution for what he perceived originally as the "botting problem" or whatever else he dislikes about Twitter, by burning the thing he was forced to take ownership of to the ground.

Many people say social media is unhealthy. Is Elon trying to say with the capital he wields that everyone is better off without it? (Even though I think this is a terrible way of doing it, as it places his other companies as collateral.)

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by mytailorisrich » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 6:14 PM UTC

They are not banning links to other platforms:

"We recognize that certain social media platforms provide alternative experiences to Twitter, and allow users to post content to Twitter from these platforms.

In general, any type of cross-posting to our platform is not in violation of this policy, even from the prohibited sites listed above."

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by synu » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 6:14 PM UTC

tlogan wrote: post #117

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #36

Ah damn, I hoped for a fair experiment to demonstrate absordity of total free speech, but istead we got bog standard hypocracy! Boo! If you are caught wondering why some people still support Elon - in 'true conservative' society, like Russia or Saudi states, hypocracy is means of demonstrating hierarchy. So as a leader, you show that you are dominant by demonstrating that rules don't apply to you. That makes you even…

I genuinely believed that he would try to allow more free speech on Twitter. There was a small chance that the experiment will succeed. I guess he never wanted that: he just lied. But why?

I don’t know if he lied or not but I get the impression he doesn’t have any particular plan, and is just doing / saying whatever comes to mind at any given moment. Who knows, but from the outside it comes across that way.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 6:14 PM UTC

sva_ wrote: post #80

People here can't even read a few paragraphs on a link posted? > We recognize that certain social media platforms provide alternative experiences to Twitter, and allow users to post content to Twitter from these platforms. In general, any type of cross-posting to our platform is not in violation of this policy, even from the prohibited sites listed above. This is just about people who basically stop using Twitter and…

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Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by bko » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 6:14 PM UTC

choult wrote: post #19

"Thin-skinned narcissist buys criticism machine." This is not "free speech absolutism" in the slightest. It's not even business-savvy. Elon's mask has truly cracked, and he proves he is nothing but a febrile mind who has bought into his own hype.

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Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by dbspin » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 6:14 PM UTC

tlogan wrote: post #117

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #36

Ah damn, I hoped for a fair experiment to demonstrate absordity of total free speech, but istead we got bog standard hypocracy! Boo! If you are caught wondering why some people still support Elon - in 'true conservative' society, like Russia or Saudi states, hypocracy is means of demonstrating hierarchy. So as a leader, you show that you are dominant by demonstrating that rules don't apply to you. That makes you even…

I genuinely believed that he would try to allow more free speech on Twitter. There was a small chance that the experiment will succeed. I guess he never wanted that: he just lied. But why?

Musk has a long track record of lying about his intentions and his products prospects. It appears he plays the part of an authentic well intentioned engineer whose principles and good sense override his politeness, well enough to fool a huge number of people.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by acdha » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 6:14 PM UTC

sva_ wrote: post #80

People here can't even read a few paragraphs on a link posted? > We recognize that certain social media platforms provide alternative experiences to Twitter, and allow users to post content to Twitter from these platforms. In general, any type of cross-posting to our platform is not in violation of this policy, even from the prohibited sites listed above. This is just about people who basically stop using Twitter and…

> This is just about people who basically stop using Twitter and post a link to follow their profile on a different social media site instead, not about posting links in general.

If that’s what they meant, they’d say that. The actual language is clear and far more expansive because that’s not their intent.

Put another way, the richest man in the world can hire his own PR team. Why are you giving away your credibility pro bono?

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by nailer » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 6:15 PM UTC

acover wrote: post #98

nopenopenopeno wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Plenty of social networks thrive while letting users link to other social networks. TikTok is famous for linking to YouTube. This is a sign of a bad product.

I don’t think youtube has direct competitors anymore. But it would be interesting if say vimeo got big again - would they block “moved to @mkbhd on vimeo” as a username for example?

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by les_diabolique » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 6:15 PM UTC

tlogan wrote: post #117

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #36

Ah damn, I hoped for a fair experiment to demonstrate absordity of total free speech, but istead we got bog standard hypocracy! Boo! If you are caught wondering why some people still support Elon - in 'true conservative' society, like Russia or Saudi states, hypocracy is means of demonstrating hierarchy. So as a leader, you show that you are dominant by demonstrating that rules don't apply to you. That makes you even…

I genuinely believed that he would try to allow more free speech on Twitter. There was a small chance that the experiment will succeed. I guess he never wanted that: he just lied. But why?

Because he's our generation's P.T. Barnum