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Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by tommiegannert »

nonrandomstring wrote: post #128
tommiegannert wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That people buy gift cards at all boggles my mind. You're buying a currency with less versatility (and hence value) for 1:1. Where I live, we have perfectly fine government-issued bills to gift if that's your thing. Somehow, that's considered a bad present? Because it's lazy? Because it doesn't show your opinion on clothes brands? I don't get it, from the consumer's perspective. To the shop/mall it's a clear winner,…

This is one more very good reason not to indulge the insanity that is a "cashless society". If you let go of those government issued bills be sure that in no time at all you'll have nothing but fragmented, private "smart" currencies each hobbled with its own insidious restrictions.

Maybe. It's easy enough to send money to someone using the phone these days, so I'm not sure cashless would lead to gift cards here in Switzerland (or my native Sweden.) But I agree it's not a very fun package to open when it's just a promise to use Twint/Swish to transfer money.

Oh, maybe the real use for gift cards is that the receiver can't haggle. "I know you wanted to give me $200, but how about we make that an even $500 instead?" :)

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by into_infinity »

gpm wrote: post #32
into_infinity wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure. Buying and selling stuff that's "deplatformed" by Paypal / Zelle / Venmo (nothing illegal, their lists of prohibited items are as long as they are silly). Paying roofers and other local contractors who often aren't set up to take credit cards, especially if you venture outside a major metro area. Paying for a car without financing. Refunds from my own bank.

> Paying for a car without financing A cheque cheque (not sure what the right name for it is), not a cashiers cheque?

Unless you look sketchy, dealerships take personal checks.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by Joel_Mckay »

In general, a commercial entity will rarely use a free email service like Google mail. And the ones that do, are too small to keep you employed very long.

And yes, these scams show up anywhere there is no traceable financial history to the advertiser. Also, did you know using a staffing agent is pretty much a guaranteed %15 to %30 pay cut from if you applied directly to a company hr contact. Note too, that once you use a staffing agent, that often your CV can no longer be considered when directly submitted to a firm that also recently posted on the agents service.

Asking employees for money sounds like a ridiculous premise, and rather cheeky if it is normal in your area.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by ricardobayes »

sharkjacobs wrote: post #4

Are cheques even used for anything except for fraud anymore? Open call: Anyone out there paying or receiving payment with cheque in the last ten years?

For example in Spain they are the de facto payment method for real estate purchases, even though most people have not even seen a check in their lives.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by alanfranz »

zorrolovsky wrote: post #103
ryandrake wrote: post #48

Great job figuring out it was a scam but honestly, it’s crazy that these things still work on anyone all the way in 2022. You would think that by now every human being that walks the earth would know that whenever someone you don’t know sends you “money” and then requests you send it back (or to another party) in a different form, it’s always a scam. There should be some ceremony whenever someone turns 16 or somethin…

This post seem to blame victims for the problem, and that is not fair. People can be in dark places mentally, struggle with disease, family issues, etc. Not everybody is mentally sharp 100% of the time to identify a scam attack and fight it back. The problem is not victims, the problem is scammers. There should be better mechanisms to quickly clamp down on them. In this case, it would be really good if there was a me…

^ this.

I was scammed about EUR 1500 some 7 years ago. It didn’t seem a scam: the price for an item was low but not too low, the identity of the seller I could verify. But the item ultimately didn’t arrive, and I didn’t know that for italian law it’s considered an “unfulfilled contract” rather than fraud, and requires a civil rather than a criminal case, which would turn out far too costly.

But the point is: I didn’t recognize some warnings because I just had my first kid and I was stressed, overworked and sleep deprived. Shit happens.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by nonrandomstring »

sharkjacobs wrote: post #4

Are cheques even used for anything except for fraud anymore? Open call: Anyone out there paying or receiving payment with cheque in the last ten years?

Cheques are a very useful and quite secure method of transaction (because all the security work and processing framework to prevent cheque fraud has been in place since the 1970s).

They are slow. That's the point.

They are essentially a two factor method of instruction to your bank. Legally (in Britain at least) one can use any reasonable method to give instructions to ones bank. Banks that want to "phase them out" because they are "too expensive and slow" are derelict in their function and should be hauled over the coals by trade and industry legislators.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by tragomaskhalos »

joeframbach wrote: post #13
nigamanth wrote: post #6

To be honest, one can easily realize that this "Marc Cannon" is a fake with the amount of spelling and grammatical errors he makes. Real professionals do not make spelling and grammar errors such as: "Do you have any other question ?" "Good morning how are you this morning." "I will send you later" "Good morning, How are you doing today ?" "This is very disrespectful and all director are to meet you for training on m…

No "Marc Cannon" would begin any sentence with "Kindly" either.

There are definite flavours of Indian English here, which would be far less suspicious - if the scammer's name wasn't non-Indian. I suspect that, firstly, the scammer is not aware that their use of English flags them thus to native speakers, and secondly that they would in any case be subconsciously reluctant to use an Indian name anyway, perhaps because they (paradoxically) think it'd make it seem more like a scam rather than less.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by zerr »

bagels wrote: post #9
windowshopping wrote: post #3

Could anyone be so kind as to comment a tl;dr of this one? I am curious but it was very long and I haven't the time at this moment.

Classic fake check, send us the money before it clears scam. The premise this time is that the check is for office equipment for a fake job offer.

When you receive the check, shouldn't you go to the bank and withdraw the cash with that? And bank lets you know that it is a fake check, thus denying the withdrawal. At what stage and why are you required to send your cash to someone else?

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by geysersam »

nonrandomstring wrote: post #128
tommiegannert wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That people buy gift cards at all boggles my mind. You're buying a currency with less versatility (and hence value) for 1:1. Where I live, we have perfectly fine government-issued bills to gift if that's your thing. Somehow, that's considered a bad present? Because it's lazy? Because it doesn't show your opinion on clothes brands? I don't get it, from the consumer's perspective. To the shop/mall it's a clear winner,…

This is one more very good reason not to indulge the insanity that is a "cashless society". If you let go of those government issued bills be sure that in no time at all you'll have nothing but fragmented, private "smart" currencies each hobbled with its own insidious restrictions.

This doesn't seem right. Cashless usually means electronic currency equivalent to physical currency.

Card payments are not gift cards.

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