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>like it’s somehow wrong and an intervention is needed.
>When someone wants to go, let them go.
Strong disagree, especially in cases where they have family and loved ones. Children and grandchildren have a moral right to continue seeing and enjoying time with their parents and grandparents. Spouses have a moral right to continue enjoying life with their beloved best friend. Outside of family I would say there probably isn't a moral right, or at least a significantly diminished one, but suicide takes away the positive influence and presence that someone has on their friends and community.
The only part of your post that I do agree with is that we should stop euphemizing news about suicide. I had a friend from high school who committed suicide while serving in the army in Iraq, and the official press release from the military made no mention of his cause of death. He was in a non-combat role that wouldn't have put him in any danger of getting shot or blown up. It wasn't until a few years later when I ran into his sister that I found out the real reason (though I had my suspicions).
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If you’ve never been clinically depressed and suicidal I can understand how you feel that way. But depression is treatable, and suicidal thoughts are generally not rational nor “typical,” even for the person experiencing them. But they feel like ground truth at the moment. But with help that moment passes.
There are some that it never does, and I can see an argument there’s no point in letting them suffer forever. There are some that have rationally decided to end their life and they’re not feeling suicidal per se but are making a choice.
But the VAST majority of the time the suicidal intention passes, and their future self likely is glad if they got help.
Source: I’ve been depressed and suicidal. I am not now and I love life. But I remember clearly how differently I thought at that time.
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#134When I was 15 I had to move high school after the death of my mother. I started to socialise at school and joined the investment club. It was a tough time for me and I desperately wanted to make friends and fit in. I wasn’t really into investing but a young man by the name of Chris Seaton was building their website and I loved computers so I wanted to help. Chris taught me how to program, first HTML websites, then PH…
Thanks for sharing this. Please take care of yourself. There's something uniquely painful about losing someone who you look up to as a mentor.
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The outpouring of love in the replies on that thread. It is tough to comprehend how that wasn't enough to prevent this.
The depressed sees the same events quite differently, that's why it is so difficult to understand for many people (I can though).
When I've been in that place, other people's kindness can feel like evidence that I'm hurting them -- that I'm drawing energy from them, that I'm a hole in the world that needs to be repaired but can't, that kind of thing. (That isn't to say that such displays of appreciation and love can't also be helpful and welcomed.)
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#136When I was 15 I had to move high school after the death of my mother. I started to socialise at school and joined the investment club. It was a tough time for me and I desperately wanted to make friends and fit in. I wasn’t really into investing but a young man by the name of Chris Seaton was building their website and I loved computers so I wanted to help. Chris taught me how to program, first HTML websites, then PH…
As a teenager, Chris (or Kit as some of his family knew him) wrote a computer programme, in his bedroom in Chandlers Ford, he called Password Safe. RIP Kit
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If you’ve never been clinically depressed and suicidal I can understand how you feel that way. But depression is treatable, and suicidal thoughts are generally not rational nor “typical,” even for the person experiencing them. But they feel like ground truth at the moment. But with help that moment passes. There are some that it never does, and I can see an argument there’s no point in letting them suffer forever. Th…
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It is a mental health issue, it is treatable, and it is preventable.
There is a lot of literature on the topic, and awareness is an important aspect to treating this mental health issue. I never got the sense people are shaming the person, or there is a lack of respect. Additionally, where "thoughts and prayers" will hardly provide any actual good (YMMV), a suicide hotline might be the saving element for someone who may also be suffering.
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The outpouring of love in the replies on that thread. It is tough to comprehend how that wasn't enough to prevent this.
Yeah. The guy had what appears to be a pretty great life. Looking through twitter, there's photos of him with his kids and wife. I just can't comprehend how someone can arrive at the decision to commit suicide, especially when you have a wife and children, and to then tweet about it. The human mind is an odd thing.
Suicide is not a decision. It’s not something you commit, like a crime. Our phrasing needs to reflect this.
It’s a disease. Chris died of suicide.
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
The outpouring of love in the replies on that thread. It is tough to comprehend how that wasn't enough to prevent this.
Yeah. The guy had what appears to be a pretty great life. Looking through twitter, there's photos of him with his kids and wife. I just can't comprehend how someone can arrive at the decision to commit suicide, especially when you have a wife and children, and to then tweet about it. The human mind is an odd thing.
Trust me, been there tried to do that (June 1977 — I woke up several days later intubated/on a ventilator in the ICU). It's completely logical when you're profoundly depressed. If you haven't been there then you "just can't comprehend..."