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Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by suzzer99 »

chitowneats wrote: post #105
suzzer99 wrote: post #22

A very vocal subset of Elon's followers went from "free speech absolutists" to organized mass reporting their enemies in a matter of days. That has to be some kind of record. Their enemies list: https://twitter.com/elmforkJBGC/status/1596041824573198336 Python script to mass report: https://twitter.com/WhiteRoseAFA/status/1596236817858056192

Twitter is very clear about its policy of banning accounts that promote real world violence.

Please explain how journalist Ben Collins, who they've been mass-targeting, is part of Antifa. There's a huge list of people that have been mass-reported who have nothing to do with Antifa. Anyone who crosses alt-right propagandist Andy Ngo has been subject to mass-reporting.

These people aren't operating in good faith.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by fragmede »

suzzer99 wrote: post #130
bArray wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Please explain how journalist Ben Collins, who they've been mass-targeting, is part of Antifa. There's a huge list of people that have been mass-reported who have nothing to do with Antifa. Anyone who crosses alt-right propagandist Andy Ngo has been subject to mass-reporting. These people aren't operating in good faith.

Guess Sesame street should have thought twice before featuring the letters C, R, and T for today's lesson

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by BulgarianIdiot »

suzzer99 wrote: post #22

A very vocal subset of Elon's followers went from "free speech absolutists" to organized mass reporting their enemies in a matter of days. That has to be some kind of record. Their enemies list: https://twitter.com/elmforkJBGC/status/1596041824573198336 Python script to mass report: https://twitter.com/WhiteRoseAFA/status/1596236817858056192

> A very vocal subset of Elon's followers went from "free speech absolutists" to organized mass reporting their enemies in a matter of days. That has to be some kind of record.

Keep in mind "Elon's fans" is not one guy. It's different groups of people with different agenda. Many cheered for free speech when Elon proclaimed it so. Many of those were right-wing due to the perception (and reality) that Twitter's moderators are predominantly left-leaning, and Twitter has left-leaning culture.

Those in a hurry building hitlists are not the moderates cheering for Elon. They're opportunities on far right that are taking advantage of Elon, as he's easy to manipulate right now. He wants to be liked and he wants to "score a win" for Twitter. He falsely believes he's scoring wins for Twitter by appeasing the worst of the worst on right.

Sad to watch.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by suzzer99 »

BulgarianIdiot wrote: post #133
suzzer99 wrote: post #22

A very vocal subset of Elon's followers went from "free speech absolutists" to organized mass reporting their enemies in a matter of days. That has to be some kind of record. Their enemies list: https://twitter.com/elmforkJBGC/status/1596041824573198336 Python script to mass report: https://twitter.com/WhiteRoseAFA/status/1596236817858056192

> A very vocal subset of Elon's followers went from "free speech absolutists" to organized mass reporting their enemies in a matter of days. That has to be some kind of record. Keep in mind "Elon's fans" is not one guy. It's different groups of people with different agenda. Many cheered for free speech when Elon proclaimed it so. Many of those were right-wing due to the perception (and reality) that Twitter's moderat…

Elon has been interacting a lot with guys like Andy Ngo and Ian Miles Cheong. I refuse to believe he's unaware of who they are.

https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1596344634443431937

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by mjhagen »

yakubin wrote: post #47

All these predictions of imminent technical downfall of Twitter read to me like predictions that in the next release Python will get slow. It's surreal. As for the non-technical aspects: Mastodon is social media, just like any other, with all the associated faults. Don’t expect miracles.

It’s actively trying not to have all the associated faults. For instance, there is no company behind it that needs to make money, so no ads, no algorithmic timeline.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by leereeves »

suzzer99 wrote: post #134
BulgarianIdiot wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A very vocal subset of Elon's followers went from "free speech absolutists" to organized mass reporting their enemies in a matter of days. That has to be some kind of record. Keep in mind "Elon's fans" is not one guy. It's different groups of people with different agenda. Many cheered for free speech when Elon proclaimed it so. Many of those were right-wing due to the perception (and reality) that Twitter's moderat…

Elon has been interacting a lot with guys like Andy Ngo and Ian Miles Cheong. I refuse to believe he's unaware of who they are. https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1596344634443431937

I personally (second hand, from someone who worked in a prison) know of a man who was imprisoned because he had sex with his 17 year old GF when he was 19.

I've heard about teenagers being prosecuted for taking nude photos of themselves [1] or to share with other teenage friends [2].

If your worst charge against Ian Miles Cheong is that he correctly pointed out draconian enforcement of these laws, then you're on the wrong side of this. The US imprisons too many people in general and this is no exception.

He's also correct that the age of consent in almost all of Europe is 16 or under. The only exceptions I see are Turkey and Vatican City.[3] The same is true in Canada and most of North America. It's even true in 32 US states. I don't see why that Tweet was included in the screenshot, as if we should be offended by the truth.

The other Tweets are offensive, but sound like jokes. Without context it's impossible to tell. MeidasTouch is clearly trying to attack Ian Miles Cheong so there's no reason to assume good faith (like not misrepresenting jokes as serious).

1: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/20/teen-prosecu...

2: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sexting-leads-to-child-porn-cha...

3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe

Re: Bye, Twitter

#137

Post by leereeves »

raphlinus wrote: post #3

I've also moved from Twitter to Mastodon, for the same reasons, and have a similar experience - the raw follower count is still a fraction as before, but a lot of interesting people I want to connect with are already there. And the feeling is... very different. There was lots about Twitter that subtly enraged me, like pop-sci Covid takes showing up in my algorithmic feed after I had extremely carefully curated my fol…

The noise you want to get away from is on Twitter because that's where the target audience is. If everyone moves to Mastodon, all the noise will move to Mastodon too.

But it is wonderful to be part of a niche community that hasn't yet been noticed by astroturfers, advertisers, politicians, and self-promoters (just like HN).

Re: Bye, Twitter

#138

Post by koonsolo »

progrus wrote: post #17

The same people who lost their marbles over COVID/fear of death are now losing their marbles again over a private platform being raided & turned into a public square. I stopped listening to these people years ago. Good riddance.

There were plenty of anti-vax people on Twitter before the Musk takeover.

Re: Bye, Twitter

#139

Post by auxbuss »

kirso wrote: post #118
raphlinus wrote: post #3

I've also moved from Twitter to Mastodon, for the same reasons, and have a similar experience - the raw follower count is still a fraction as before, but a lot of interesting people I want to connect with are already there. And the feeling is... very different. There was lots about Twitter that subtly enraged me, like pop-sci Covid takes showing up in my algorithmic feed after I had extremely carefully curated my fol…

The issue I have with mastodon is that it seems to cater to tech people, but there is an entire outside world. https://mxb.dev/blog/the-indieweb-for-everyone/

This is exactly how it was on twitter during the early years.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by jringo »

Pxtl wrote: post #78
sheeshkebab wrote: post #36

Maybe it’s holidays but I noticed my twitter feed getting filled up lately with various far right types posting crap. I guess these idiots were always there but somehow they were drawn out by saner content that I care about, not anymore it seems. I’ll probably delete twitter too if that’s the way it will continue on after another a couple of weeks.

Basically the "free speech" Elon liberated was transphobia. Which, considering that his trans daughter no longer speaks to him and changed her last name away from Musk, and Grimes left him for a trans woman, and he's publicly posted anti-trans tweets, means he might have an axe to grind against the trans community. This has led to a lot of progressive twitter either exiting the site or switching to full-time culture…

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