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Nostr is a stupid simple P2P protocol that works, built by builders

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Re: Nostr is a stupid simple P2P protocol that works, built by builders

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post #87

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That's a great article, and balancing free speech with censorship is a difficult problem. But it becomes a constant headache only on centralized platforms, where no amount of resources can realistically monitor and filter all content. This scales in complexity as the platform grows, which is the goal of any centralized service. And if the business model depends on advertising, it becomes even messier and crucial to i…

You didn't answer the question. The question was, to wit, >How do you keep CP off it? Your answer was: >I don't, just don't look at the CP. The problem really in question here is: You've just created a new distribution method for this type of thing and punted the consequences for someone else to deal with. (Which is totally cool imo, but newsflash, expect to be the subject of a hit piece some time in the forseeable f…

In many European jurisdictions, you are criminally liable for anything that makes it onto your systems, regardless of how it got there.

So, the OP has just given people a whole new way of making themselves liable for illegal content, just by running the P2P software in question.

In most cases, the police aren't interested in hauling a service provider into jail, they want to haul in the person who put that content there. But this does make a nice little lever that the police can use against any service provider.

Re: Nostr is a stupid simple P2P protocol that works, built by builders

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post #38

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I don't know about KaZaA but I remember it was very popular for a time, so it might have done some things right? What was its fate? Was it censored to death? And I disagree very much that IRC is "semi-decentralized". IRC is completely centralized, it is just chat rooms on a server. You have to register on each server and each server has full control over its rooms and users.

I'm sure all the script kiddies who loved to take over channels in netsplits are gonna be disappointed that they never actually did that now. More seriously, this is the second time I've seen someone on here characterize IRC in this (very wrong) way in the last day. Where is this coming from? IRC networks are made up of servers that relay (hence Internet Relay Chat) with each other. You connect to one server and you…

I think you may be confused because you decided to rely on this loose concept of "semi-decentralization". IRC providers may use multiple servers, but that doesn't mean decentralization. They are closed networks, not very different from any sufficiently big internet business that runs multiple servers behind a load-balancer.

See https://drewdevault.com/2021/07/03/How-does-IRC-federate.htm...

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