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Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over Khashoggi killing

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Post by cmh89 »

lazide wrote: post #19
cmh89 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The United States is the largest producer of oil in the world. We just don't nationalize it. We give it away to foreign owned oil corporations who then gouge us at the pump.

The US is (and has been for a long time), an exporter of refined petroleum products such as Gasoline. In 2021, it also happened to be a net exporter or petroleum overall, but usually it bounces around. https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-produc... Saudi Arabia is key in keeping global energy prices lower by increasing global supply, and is also a key ally in a historically unstable region which impa…

>Saudi Arabia is key in keeping global energy prices lower by increasing global supply, and is also a key ally in a historically unstable region which impacts those prices.

The key to keeping energy prices low for the US is to stop giving away our oil and then focus on shifting our economy to an energy source that can't be manipulated by foreign powers trying to influence our elections.

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Post by aiProgMach »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #89
peoplefromibiza wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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In case this is serious, we didn’t sue Hussain or Gadaffi out of office.

I think your reply is the joke, the Poster comment is making good point, Saddam Hussein & Gadaffi were removed by US war machine. It's just a war that suits the US.

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Post by whimsicalism »

maccard wrote: post #31
habibur wrote: post #5

The same happened to Modi, the PM of India, if my memory serves me right. He was banned from entering USA for his deeds, until he turned out to be the head of India. Apparently your only way out is to be the head of your state, if you have done something evil.

> Your only way out is to be the head of your state. Or a diplomat https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Harry_Dunn

Many cases like this with US spies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Allen_Davis_incident

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Post by ignoramous »

rajeshp1986 wrote: post #28
habibur wrote: post #5

The same happened to Modi, the PM of India, if my memory serves me right. He was banned from entering USA for his deeds, until he turned out to be the head of India. Apparently your only way out is to be the head of your state, if you have done something evil.

Let me clarify some points at the risk of sounding like a Modi supporter. Modi had gone though investigations and was acquitted by the Supreme court of India. It was definitely failure of government mechanism and officials but not state sponsored voilence. " The Supreme Court on Friday dismissed allegations of "larger conspiracy" levelled by Zakia Jafri, widow of Congress leader Ehsan Jafri who was killed in the 2002…

> Let me clarify some points...

Here are some more points that I've read about (not sure if true), if can you clarify them:

1. The involvement of cabinet ministers of Modi's government.

2. The non-involvement of the State Police which were under Modi's control.

3. Modi's refusal to deploy the Armed Forces (which fall under the command of the Central Government).

4. Rioters having access to State Government census records and the State Government-controlled supplies like LPG cylinders.

5. Since murdered BJP Leader Haren Pandya's confession of Modi being complicit.

And a laundry list of other things that Supreme Court of India probably looked at and dismissed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Gujarat_riots#Allegations...

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Post by npinterview »

habibur wrote: post #5

The same happened to Modi, the PM of India, if my memory serves me right. He was banned from entering USA for his deeds, until he turned out to be the head of India. Apparently your only way out is to be the head of your state, if you have done something evil.

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Re: Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over Khashoggi killing

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Post by recuter »

sovnade wrote: post #3

So he can't be held liable because he is the Prime Minister of SA. Essentially the same thing here where the sitting President cannot be directly charged with a crime (or sued personally).

SA is an absolute monarchy, he is the son of the king and hair apparent. Lets not be coy.

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Post by scottLobster »

bearcobra wrote: post #77

I really hope the world can accelerate it's adoption of energy sources that will replace oil. They aren't without their own flaws but besides Norway, I can't think of place where oil hasn't corrupted society in some major way.

Just wait until The Saudis figure out that they're a desert, and maybe instead of stupid line cities they should be building solar farms and long-range international transmission lines.
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