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Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative

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Post by EamonnMR »

ceres wrote: post #61
jasode wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I’m fed up with “platforms”. Growing a garden on someone else’s land is dumb [...] To top it off, there’s very little upside to you as a user. The "upside" for users who post/write is reaching larger audiences . Similar reasons for mass audience "broadcast" platforms like Twitter, Youtube, TikTok. Small islands of decentralized communities (USENET newsgroups, dial-up BBS, vBulletin/phpBB forum websites, this HN webs…

Not everyone is a wanna be influencer who wants to reach a billion people. If that’s the case private Facebook groups, WhatsApp groups and Telegram groups wouldn’t be as popular as they are.

But many people are. It's the same mentality as buying a lottery ticket.

Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative

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Post by drcongo »

ceres wrote: post #18

I’m fed up with “platforms”. Growing a garden on someone else’s land is dumb and I think more people are starting to get it. Why feed someone’s enterprise for free who will then turn it into a powerful walled garden, make billions in profit while eventually dictating what you can and can’t do on said platform. To top it off, there’s very little upside to you as a user. Your own data is used against you. At this point…

I'll be cheering it on anyway, just because it's fun to watch Musk burn his money.

Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative

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Post by mikeryan »

barbazoo wrote: post #78
jasode wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I’m fed up with “platforms”. Growing a garden on someone else’s land is dumb [...] To top it off, there’s very little upside to you as a user. The "upside" for users who post/write is reaching larger audiences . Similar reasons for mass audience "broadcast" platforms like Twitter, Youtube, TikTok. Small islands of decentralized communities (USENET newsgroups, dial-up BBS, vBulletin/phpBB forum websites, this HN webs…

What makes Mastodon not able to accomplish this?

The trouble with Mastodon that I’ve seen (on Twitter) is folks are a bit confused with its federated nature. They’re not sure which server to use nor the “rules” governing that server.

Mastodon is really better suited as a collection of smaller communities much like Reddit's r/ forums then for one “universal” platform.

It’s already had some scaling issues with folks trying to use it as well.

Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative

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Post by Entinel »

I'm very interested in seeing how Twitter dying shakes out in terms of social media. Frankly, I don't think people "get it" and that includes me. From where I sit no one wants to self-host, no one wants to be advertised to, but no one wants to pay for anything either. As always, one million "alternatives" will be made, they will die one by one in some Squid Game style battle royale and then society will choose one and the cycle continues.

Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative

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Post by LAC-Tech »

How many twitter articles does hacker news need a day?

I get it, you're social media junkies and your main supplier is now giving you tainted stuff. I'm sorry but that has almost nothing to do with technology and a lot to do with your own shortcomings.

Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative

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Post by mikeryan »

LAC-Tech wrote: post #136

How many twitter articles does hacker news need a day? I get it, you're social media junkies and your main supplier is now giving you tainted stuff. I'm sorry but that has almost nothing to do with technology and a lot to do with your own shortcomings.

I mean, if nothing else, it’s a fascinating business case study playing out in real time.

Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative

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Post by sleepybrett »

moron4hire wrote: post #125
jasode wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I’m fed up with “platforms”. Growing a garden on someone else’s land is dumb [...] To top it off, there’s very little upside to you as a user. The "upside" for users who post/write is reaching larger audiences . Similar reasons for mass audience "broadcast" platforms like Twitter, Youtube, TikTok. Small islands of decentralized communities (USENET newsgroups, dial-up BBS, vBulletin/phpBB forum websites, this HN webs…

> Small islands of decentralized communities (USENET newsgroups, dial-up BBS, vBulletin/phpBB forum websites, this HN website, and recent Mastodon interest, etc) do not accomplish the same thing. One of those things is not like the others. This HN website, phpBB forums, etc., don't interface with other systems. Mastodon does . Usenet and BBS' problem was more that they just predated the massive influx of always-onlin…

Let's just go back to FIDOnet

Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative

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Post by kibwen »

lelag wrote: post #72
horsawlarway wrote: post #59

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It might feel that way, but I promise you it's definitely not "everyone". Hell, it's only about 45 million in the US (assuming you believe Twitter's own numbers - which I definitely do not). So at best, you're getting 1 in ~8 folks in the US. More realistically, I'd assume your audience is more likely 1 in ~20 in the US - assuming you manage to get literally everyone to follow you. Is that larger than you're going to…

Tweets often do reach much further than active users of the Twitter platform as they are often embedded in mainstream news stories and such.

Which, if they can be spread outside of Twitter, refutes the earlier point that "influence stops at the water". The web is the platform.
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