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Oxford University Press’s new logo is unfathomably bad

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Re: Oxford University Press’s new logo is unfathomably bad

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Ooh, ooh. I have one to share! The infamous "Case" Fat Man With a Surfboard logo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Case_Western_Reserve_Universit... Is it as bad as the Met's new logo? Probably not. Is it pretty objectionable, and universally maligned? Yeah, definitely. Anybody else got one to share for our shared schadenfreude?

> Fat Man With a Surfboard Wow, this took me a second but now it’s the only thing I can see. The 2020 MLB spring training hat logos were universally hated, but the Padres had a notably bad one: https://www.crossingbroad.com/2020/02/padres-changing-spring...

It's a good luck charm.

Re: Oxford University Press’s new logo is unfathomably bad

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A university in the UK (Portsmouth?) hired an expensive creative agency to come up with a new name. They whittled it down to three options: * University of Portsmouth * The University of Portsmouth * Portsmouth University

Yeah, so a couple years back the "Technische Universität Berlin" rebranded to "Berlin Universität der Technologie" or Berlin University of Technology. Because they thought that would be more similar to e.g. MIT and the like. Of course the abbreviation then would be BUT... Thankfully it did not stick and they are back to Technical University of Berlin.

In 2006, the University of Karlsruhe rebranded (for the same reason) to Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (KIT), aping MIT.

Re: Oxford University Press’s new logo is unfathomably bad

#134

How relevant is having a Psalm as a motto? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominus_illuminatio_mea

Relevant to what ? Things aren't relevant in isolation. We're talking about the logo of an historic institution, part of an institution with an even deeper history, the sort of place where you might expect a person chosen at random to be able to understand that motto.

Relevant to the common alive person. I'll be that person chosen at random; I don't understand the motto. How is it relevant to a school? Good riddance.

Re: Oxford University Press’s new logo is unfathomably bad

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The new logo reminds me of the Anaconda logo (https://anaconda.org/). The old logo was so much better, it displayed historical significance of the institution, it’s legacy, and the basic fact that it is related to education. The font had its own charm too. There was absolutely no need to change it. Wasteful expenditure of donations money.

Re: Oxford University Press’s new logo is unfathomably bad

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An unpopular opinion: there are too many other logos that look like the original logo. Some amalgamation of Latin words and a coat of arms. It's also pretty unattractive visually (weird thickness exterior curves, all caps words with hyphens). First impression of the new logo: boring. Second impression: nice play on an open book and capital O, very clean lines, will look good in print (perhaps with some light gradient…

I like the stairs feel to the new logo, which I think fits with a University Press's mission rather nicely.

Re: Oxford University Press’s new logo is unfathomably bad

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post #49

I remember when SGI (Silicon Graphics) paid a bunch of money to rebrand to . . . drumroll . . . SGI! The consultants must have been high-fiving each other after that one landed, it's like trading in your car only to find that the saleswoman has sold you your own car back, at a profit. (SGI later collapsed due to "Corporate Campus Syndrome", and other companies, including Google, now occupy the wacky buildings they sp…

Usually a logo/rebrand change keeps the name. So no real suprise. That said, SGI had an iconic logo of a cube formed from a single periodic pipe before. I was using SGIs daily at the time and I almost cried when they did the rebrand. The rebrand replaced it with a contemporary (at the time, mind you) typography logo that would look outdated if the compamy still existed. To their credit, the rebrand did include a type…

> That said, SGI had an iconic logo of a cube formed from a single periodic pipe before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Graphics#/media/File%3...

Rebranded in 1999, according to Wikipedia. I would think the old logo looked really bad on the web at the time, with monitors being 640 × 480 at 256 colors, if you were lucky. It also would have been expensive to reproduce well on letterhead, and I wouldn’t dare think of how that looked on photocopies (often monochrome at the time)

Now, could they have stylized/simplified the old logo and keep it nice? I wouldn’t know.

Re: Oxford University Press’s new logo is unfathomably bad

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post #91

I profoundly dislike the new logo as it erodes an ever diminishing bygone-era of graphic design. Traditional cyphers, monograms and other iconography are time-bound to the pre-20th century (n Not everything needs to be redesigned, not everything needs a modern sans-serif font. Oxford University is the worlds foremost academic institute; founded in 1096; the Press founded in 1586! The previous logo represented this an…

Perceived loss of individuality is frequently just an outcome of a design epoch change. Most logos that we thought were unique and had lots of individuality came from an era when that particular graphic design style was en vogue. Then later the logos were updated to better follow new trends (a vary fair desire for a business). Yes, Art Nouveau logos were pretty but the vast majority of logos in that era were designed…

Hard, hard disagree. This good article has been discussed before on HN: https://velvetshark.com/articles/why-do-brands-change-their-...

It's not just a "perceived" loss of individuality. The new logos discussed in that linked article, especially the fashion ones, suck in my opinion because they're boring and they all look the same. They at least used to have some good degree of variability.

Re: Oxford University Press’s new logo is unfathomably bad

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post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ask any British person what 'The Met' is and they'll say 'London police' (or similar). I doubt an American museum could ever change that, embracing something so generic is limiting for identity & brand awareness IMO.

Ask anyone outside of Britain what "The Met" is and you'll hear about the museum. I don't think one very small country should be the primary blocker to their branding decisions.

Curious as to what your definition of very small is. The UK is above median land area for a country, #21 for population, #6 for gdp, it's principal island is the 9th largest.

I mean, yes, the UK is not the same scale as the USA, China, India etc, but I'd put to you that it is not so very small

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