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Re: Disney says it has more streaming customers than Netflix

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Post by mcphage »

laptop-man wrote: post #65
LarsDu88 wrote: post #22

Disney has decades of experience with content that the whole family can enjoy. Netflix has a decade of experience with...AWS With Netflix you get a mixed bag of Stranger Things + stuff that most folks expect to be dropped after 2 seasons. When Netflix pivoted into content, they needed to get creatives and passionate people in charge rather than the tech-world PMs they ended up putting in charge. Disney might not be p…

idk about you but I know of atleast 15 gems made by Netflix. but majority are cartoons. 15 is nothing tho compared to all of their flops. if anyone likes cartoons checkout: centaurworld - awesome wrap up on the last episode dogs in space Maya and the three dead end Cuphead over the moon Klaus

Everything about Klaus seems like something I wouldn't like... I'm iffy about Santa movies, I definitely don't like the "backstory which explains every minor detail"... and yet, it's fantastic. It somehow breaks through schlocky fake sincerity and makes it to real sincerity in a way that most shows & movies don't.

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Post by systemicdanna »

dagmx wrote: post #128
systemicdanna wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with Disney is that if you are not into… well Disney stuff then there is nothing to watch. On HBO you just get quality, in many different genres and formats.

Depending which country you’re in or bundle you choose, Disney gives you: - all the fox content which is a massive range of genres - Disney animation and live action stuff (including Pixar) - Marvel and Star Wars - national geographic documentaries - a bunch of shows on Hulu or from FX The range is actually quite a bit higher overall. In the US these are split out over multiple services but in most of the rest of the…

Hulu has some good content. Disney+ is a well designed service, but I am just not into their storytelling/world-building (super heroes, Star Wars, etc). Original Star Wars was fairly watchable sci-fi, but modern Disney is unbearably banal (for adults, still probably good for kids).

I get the bundle for free from Verizon but never login. Thanks for the reminder that it also includes National Geographic, can't remember if the original Cosmos series were produced by them. Will log in to browse the catalog.

Re: Disney says it has more streaming customers than Netflix

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Post by newyankee »

rabuse wrote: post #28
legitster wrote: post #2

Disney has so much less content, and I really don't mind it. There's nothing I hate more than logging into Netflix after a month and everything I was vaguely interested in has now completely disappeared and been replaced by even more half-assed looking projects. Also, shout out to Disney for actually making it easy to restart a show from the beginning. I don't understand how Netflix has dropped so much money into chi…

They have less content, but Netflix is seriously full of so much trash content. I've rarely enjoyed a Netflix original movie.

I recently started watching their original show called 'Inventing Anna'. It was like a max 4 episode content elongated to 10 episodes. This has always been a problem with traditional TV, however differentiating the channels, content was ironically easier then.

Right now, Netflix just forces you to watch certain shows by showing them front and centre. Conscious UI/UX choices to mask limited selections.

Re: Disney says it has more streaming customers than Netflix

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Post by Infinitesimus »

MBCook wrote: post #52
alistairSH wrote: post #23

Not surprising, Disney (plus ESPN and HULU) is bundled with several cell phone plans in the US. I subscribe because it’s “free”. And Netflix continues its long slide into irrelevance. I’ve was a subscriber for many years, but cut it last month. Too much low-quality programming and it continually recommends shows I’ve watched previously and refuses to allow Apple to index it’s catalog so it appears in alongside other…

> and refuses to allow Apple to index it’s catalog so it appears in alongside other providers inside Apple TV. I hate this so much. I understand the idea. “We want you to come to Netflix for all your needs”. Makes sense from their perspective. But I’M the user. My Apple TV helps me keep track of everything I’m watching right now. New seasons of shows I watch pop-up so I know they are out. I don’t have to check 7 apps…

Netflix is naturally afraid of giving Apple, a trillion dollar competitor, access to their viewing data and help accelerate Apple's growth in the area.

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Post by systemicdanna »

brewdad wrote: post #120
systemicdanna wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotally: not in a battle. I have unsubscribed from Netflix last year and got Disney+/Hulu for free. So these services are not fighting for my money!

Same. Although we resubbed to Netflix after going without it for 3 or 4 months. Netflix has juuuuuust enough content to keep my wife interested. I could go without it and wouldn't miss much. For as little TV she watches though, having "her" shows available when she does want to watch means we keep paying.

For me it wasn't just about money, I really disliked the process of going to Netflix and browsing their trash piles for 40 minutes before deciding to give up and go to bed.

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Post by izacus »

keewee7 wrote: post #59

Why haven't any of the big streaming services tried bundling sports streaming?

Because they're not allowed to due to exclusivity deals.

Disney can just buy out content from competing services and HN will cheer them on with how amazing they are when they prevented other services from streaming the same content.

Re: Disney says it has more streaming customers than Netflix

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Post by cgriswald »

foobazgt wrote: post #109
cgriswald wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Netflix is also doling out shows a few episodes a week to keep people from subscribing, binging, and unsubscribing. That works fine for something like Stranger Things but they're even doing it for shows no one is subscribing to see. Frankly, the ability to binge a show is like decanting a wine or heating sake. It can make a mediocre show a lot better. Taking away that ability should be used with caution. As a long ti…

Netflix ending binge watching is reported to be a rumor: https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/netflix-binge-release-... (/me busy binge watching the latest Dragon Prince release).

The only source we have that it's a rumor is Netflix. Netflix is also my source: Several shows that were released in bulk for previous seasons are releasing between 1 and 3 episodes per week for their current seasons.

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Post by Wyoming23 »

kmeisthax wrote: post #76
hemloc_io wrote: post #11

Here's a question I've had and maybe someone from HN can answer it. The (movie) streaming wars have content as a differentiator in the market, but it doesn't seem like Spotify/Apple music is effected. Assuming both the RIAA and MPAA members both don't care about consumer complaints that much, why do record companies not start their own streaming services? I assume it's easier than making a movie streaming service, an…

They tried. They failed so horribly that the RIAA basically granted Apple a monopoly on digital music for the next half a decade. Steve Jobs had to basically slap the labels around a lot just so that they wouldn't limit how many iPods you could sync your music to or make you buy a subscription. Music streaming was tried by basically every other player in the business and failed until Spotify pushed for ad-supported f…

Your guess is close to correct but with some critical differences regarding the power dynamics and incentives between Spotify and record labels.

The record labels pulled off the ultimate coup right when technology was making them irrelevant. Ethically, they should have negotiated for a larger revenue sharing with the artists, and then taken their percentage from that. But they realized they could make far more money by forcing Spotify to give them equity in exchange for screwing over the artists.

The end result is that the record labels simultaneously were negotiating supposedly on behalf of the creators against the streaming platforms, while simultaneously becoming owners of the streaming platforms. They agreed to terrible terms for the artists, in exchange for making themselves the beneficiaries of the crooked deal.

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