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Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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Post by luiseduaguil »

pilimi_anna wrote: post #126
pilimi_anna wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Holy shit! Did not see this coming, but glad we saved this collection just in time. (I'm Anna, the one who made the backup). We are working on hosting this collection, as well as saving other large collections. Please consider supporting us, donation details at http://pilimi.org (we'll set up a patreon-like system soon)

Note that their TOR domains are still up: http://zlibrary24tuxziyiyfr7zd46ytefdqbqd2axkmxm4o5374ptpc52... and http://loginzlib2vrak5zzpcocc3ouizykn6k5qecgj2tzlnab5wcbqhem...

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Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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Post by taneq »

Cypher wrote: post #31

I was never going to buy the book anyway.

That’s my justification for downloading movies. I was never gonna buy it anyway, and my partner was always going to buy it anyway (olive theory is real) so it makes literally no difference.

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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Post by majjgepolja »

fortran77 wrote: post #116
jrm4 wrote: post #22

As a lawyer, I can't recommend it, but I absolutely cannot discern any moral difference whatsoever between reading a library book for free and purchasing it later if I like it, and doing the same first thing by downloading the ebook from somewhere "unapproved." It's all very silly.

Oh it's stealing. Someone wants to get paid for the work, and they're entitled to get paid. I think people who know it's stealing, but are willing to download books anyway because of their personal risk/reward calculation (or perhaps they dislike the author and don't mind stealing from him!), have an intact moral compass: They know right from wrong. I wonder about people who try to rationalize the crime of book-steal…

Some technical books are too costly for students, especially in third world countries.

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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Post by midoridensha »

elil17 wrote: post #130
1123581321 wrote: post #104

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No, the impact is different. The library doesn't pay for the ebook just once. When the library buys the ebook, they're allowed to lend it a certain number of times before they have to buy the book again. Or they pay for a number of lends per day and payments for the books checked out are distributed to the appropriate publishers. The relationship between physical book checkouts and author/publisher revenue is less di…

The physical degradation of the books seems like such a minor effect. I'm pretty gentle with books. As for library ebooks, I had no idea the contracts were structured like that.

Like with so many physical possessions, it really varies from person to person. Some people have libraries full of books they've read, and all their books are in pristine condition. Look at their other possessions and they're all in excellent condition.

Other people, you loan them one paperback book, and when you get it back it looks like it's been dropped off a highway overpass bridge and run over in rush-hour traffic. Look at other possessions that person has, and you'll see the same thing: they're all beat up and pieces of them are broken.

Some people are just destructive for some reason, and it's entirely from carelessness, not malice.

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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Post by Ensorceled »

ZoF wrote: post #74
elil17 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If my local library already owns the book and it is not checked out, what is the difference between driving there to check it out and downloading it illegally online? The impact to the author is the same: absolutely nothing.

It's nothing in isolation of your single act. Maybe. In aggregate it of course deprecates the library(they have e-checkouts already but you're talking untracked piracy). I like libraries; I think they're mostly performative in small towns and providing social services in cities rather than functioning as actual libraries. Kinda sad. I pirate all my books btw, just saying if everyone did it ofc there'd be(already is)…

> I like libraries; I think they're mostly performative in small towns and providing social services in cities rather than functioning as actual libraries. Kinda sad.

The library in the small town I grew up in is still lending lots of books and ebooks in addition to lending movies and music and providing computer access, training and other services. The library down the street from where I live now is the same. Libraries are more vibrant and active now then when I was a kid.

Where are you that libraries have become "performative"?

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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Post by thrdbndndn »

orbital-decay wrote: post #23
thrdbndndn wrote: post #18

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Why is it guaranteed? I have been buying ebooks for more than 10 years and they still work.

Because someday either that DRM will be obsolete or Adobe itself will die. The probability of that is 1, so it's guaranteed.

No doubt, but I'm questioning the timeframe.

> you are guaranteed to lose access to them in 10 years or tomorrow

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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Post by em-bee »

krono wrote: post #90
bytm3 wrote: post #25

The U.S. Postal Inspection Service supports and protects the U.S. Postal Service and its customers by enforcing the laws that defend the nation’s mail system from illegal or dangerous use. What do they have to do with ebooks???

That same Postal Inspection Service also had a large role in the creation of the Secret Service. Highly trained and well-armed mailmen :)

i was once visiting a friend who worked at the US postal service. i was traveling with a backpack with gear that looked rather rough, ready to go hiking in the woods. at one point my friend took me to his office while i was in full travel gear. in the elevator he told the others that i was one of those people delivering mail in the american backcountry.

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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Post by dkjaudyeqooe »

pilimi_anna wrote: post #126
pilimi_anna wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Holy shit! Did not see this coming, but glad we saved this collection just in time. (I'm Anna, the one who made the backup). We are working on hosting this collection, as well as saving other large collections. Please consider supporting us, donation details at http://pilimi.org (we'll set up a patreon-like system soon)

Note that their TOR domains are still up: http://zlibrary24tuxziyiyfr7zd46ytefdqbqd2axkmxm4o5374ptpc52... and http://loginzlib2vrak5zzpcocc3ouizykn6k5qecgj2tzlnab5wcbqhem...

Those domains are up, but downloading doesn't work right now, possibly because their CDN uses non-onion domain names. They're timing out.

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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Post by mister_tee »

bl4ckneon wrote: post #87
tttttt5ts wrote: post #83

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Buy 3x 16 or 18 TB external harddrives on black Friday and shuck them. It is still going to run you $400-$500. Can't do it cheaper as far as I know.

Yep I have done that before to make a 6 bay NAS. Gotta tape over a couple connectors on the sata connector but works great. Datahorders on reddit is a great sub for that sort of stuff. Guides as well as people posting when the deals happen for WD elements (external hdds)

not an argument but just an FYI for people reading about that idea for the first time: some NAS enclosures (QNAP, Synology?) and some power supplies can use the drives directly without disabling that 3.3V pin.
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