I'm being slightly offtopic here but I really dislike how slow Firefox is to launch since it became a snap package as a default on Ubuntu 22.04. I know I can uninstall the Firefox snap and install it through APT, but I imagine more and more packages will become snaps by default on Ubuntu. And finding out now that it's possible that snaps are part of a walled garden, just like app/play stores are is really bumming me…
Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap
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Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap
#132 > > Snap Store administrators had to remove the snap in accordance with our policies.
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> Thank you for providing an official answer.
An officious answer is more like it. Note the deliberate evasiveness (which policy? Mind your own business.). This is to be expected from an organization one of whose "policies" is "we are going to update apps on 'your' desktop whether you like it or not, luzer."Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap
#133Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap
#134Well, I have been using Ubuntu for many years. This kind of thing, centralizing packages and removing one without explanation etc makes me think I should move on. I suppose the alternative is to switch to Debian? Or maybe there is something totally different that is becoming popular that I don't know about yet?
I switched from Ubuntu to Debian on the server side when Canonical started pushing Snaps on Ubuntu Server. Having a server dependency on a proprietary app store is unacceptable to me when open alternatives are available. Debian makes sense because it's upstream from Ubuntu and known for stability. On the desktop side, Debian is also a stable choice, but you might prefer to go downstream from Ubuntu to get newer featu…
sudo apt update
sudo apt upgrade
sudo sed -i 's/bullseye/sid/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
sudo apt dist-upgradeRe: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap
#135Signal Snap Maintainer here, this is because of a DMCA takedown request from lawyers representing Signal. Canonical is currently working with them to clear things up. Canonical's communication to me was initially lacking due to issues in their process, the process has been amended and I'm back in the loop again.
Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap
#136Well, I have been using Ubuntu for many years. This kind of thing, centralizing packages and removing one without explanation etc makes me think I should move on. I suppose the alternative is to switch to Debian? Or maybe there is something totally different that is becoming popular that I don't know about yet?
I don't see anyone mentioning fedora. Is that a decent alternative?
Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's standard policy for me to uninstall snapd after every Ubuntu install
My standard policy is to avoid Canonical
Would I use Ubuntu as a desktop, oh hell no -- nothing is ever going to beat Fedora.
Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
- Still need a phone number - They refuse to post the app on f-droid (directly) - No 3rd party clients allowed on their servers. - Crypto thing they attempted - I don't trust Moxie, he rubs me the wrong way.
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Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap
#139This is not a good look. The snap has been gone for almost a month, with seemingly no information given to the maintainer or users about why, except a belated "we removed it for policy reasons" 21 days ago. And if this happens to maintainers associated with Snapcrafters , imagine how you're treated if you're just some random person or company who maintains your own snap. This is the sort of reason why people are conc…
Another perspective: Canonical's IoT offering, Ubuntu Core, is based around the idea that Canonical provides the base operating system, and you provide your software as a snap, uploaded to Canonical's snap store, and you push updates to your IoT product by pushing an updated snap to the store. That has always rubbed me the wrong way, but "Canonical will just delete the snap and not respond to questions about why" was…
Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap
#140I'm being slightly offtopic here but I really dislike how slow Firefox is to launch since it became a snap package as a default on Ubuntu 22.04. I know I can uninstall the Firefox snap and install it through APT, but I imagine more and more packages will become snaps by default on Ubuntu. And finding out now that it's possible that snaps are part of a walled garden, just like app/play stores are is really bumming me…
For a typical Ubuntu desktop user this is such a PITA. A small app like Spotify client takes around 15 seconds to start up on my beefed up workstation. Canonical pretends this issue doesn't exist but I've had enough and I'm switching to Fedora. They are openly hostile towards their own users.
Yes, and it's deeply ingrained in their culture so unlikely (IMHO) to change. My eyes first opened to this in April of 2011 when I was (horribly) surprised by Gnome being removed in favor of Unity, when I saw how they treated their users and community on forums and such. It was the same condescending attitude we see today where the user are complete idiots who want to do things the "wrong" way and the canonical employees (especially the "community managers") know the "right" way to do everything.