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Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Post by pessimizer »

leloup_legarou wrote: post #107
lalaithion wrote: post #91

Aka "Good job finding a class-correlate you didn't manage to control for"

If the study was done in the US, then maybe. But it was done in Spain: > 12,161 individuals, representative of the Spanish population ≥18 years old, were recruited between 2008 and 2010 and followed up through 2019. Where nobody can prepare food without olive oil. It's the law.

> Where nobody can prepare food without olive oil. It's the law.

Like everywhere else, Spain is a place where virgin olive oil is more expensive than the defiled version.

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Post by colechristensen »

yrral wrote: post #120
_moof wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The North American Olive Oil Association maintains a list of genuine olive oils. They send people into grocery stores to randomly buy a bottle of one of the listed brands/varieties and test it in their lab. https://www.aboutoliveoil.org/64-certified-pure-and-authenti...

Interesting, from the article: > Does the fact that an olive oil does not have your seal mean that the olive oil is not authentic? > The answer is emphatically no. According to a study conducted by scientists from the FDA in a study published in 2015 that the risk of purchasing a bottle of adulterated EVOO is low (less than 5%). The scientists randomly sampled 88 bottles of EVOO that they purchased from supermarkets…

> I wonder where the opposite fact that I hear on the internet that most olive oil is adulterated comes from.

If someone on the internet is telling you something is bad, they probably got their information from someone else on the internet. The number of people willing to guess based on their gut feelings is too damn high. People don’t know what they’re talking about and letting everybody know how bad for you something is is a toxic infectious idea disease.

Where does it come from? I’m guessing in this case the trend of making a product like salad dressing that advertises its evoo content and neglects to mention it also contains a majority of cheaper oils unless you actually look at the ingredients.

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Post by colechristensen »

ericbarrett wrote: post #50
VBprogrammer wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I lived with a Greek flatmate for a while. By far the best olive oil I've had was from their family owned olive grove. Usually brought back from his trips home in reused milk jugs.

There used to be a vineyard in Lake County (CA) that made small-batch olive oil from trees on their estate. Sadly, the trees were destroyed in a fire a few years ago. I'll never forget the taste; it had a very strong olive flavor and was so acidic it actually felt spicy on your tongue. Have never found its equal in a store, no matter how exotic and/or pricey.

I went to farmers markets in the Bay Area and was able to find that kind of spicy olive oil easily enough. If there’sa grumpy old man selling oil, tell him what you want.

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Post by cassepipe »

metroholografix wrote: post #73

Greek olive oil is considered the best in the world and doesn't suffer from Mafia infiltration which is a huge problem in Italy [1] [2] [3]. Here is some good quality Greek olive oil available in US, reasonably priced, that you can buy without fear of adulteration or other shadiness: https://www.amazon.com/Terra-Creta-Kolymvari-Protective-Desi... https://www.amazon.com/Iliada-Extra-Virgin-Olive-Liter/dp/B0... The Gre…

I am only speaking about taste but various italian olive oils I have tested are too... acrid in my opinion. In comparison, all greek olive oils I have had access to ranged from good to amazingly good. Speaking from the pov of someone whose main fodder is bread, olive oil and lettuce.

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Post by fortran77 »

metroholografix wrote: post #73

Greek olive oil is considered the best in the world and doesn't suffer from Mafia infiltration which is a huge problem in Italy [1] [2] [3]. Here is some good quality Greek olive oil available in US, reasonably priced, that you can buy without fear of adulteration or other shadiness: https://www.amazon.com/Terra-Creta-Kolymvari-Protective-Desi... https://www.amazon.com/Iliada-Extra-Virgin-Olive-Liter/dp/B0... The Gre…

I like Grecian olive oils, but I also like Israeli olive oil. Very high quality. If you live in an area in the US where it's available (NY, and LA mostly) it's worth trying:

https://www.touristisrael.com/israel-olive-oil-industry/2819...

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Post by brutusborn »

oldgradstudent wrote: post #118

Virgin olive oil is more expensive. The most important, and well known confounding factor in observational health research is socioeconomic status - rich people live longer than poor people. This research attempted to control for it in a limited fashion, but that's not nearly enough.

This is so common in these kinds of studies that I tend to ignore them. I saw a similar one recently that linked certain types of meat and dairy consumption to longevity but didn't control for wealth. The real problem isn't diet but being poor.

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Post by oldgradstudent »

brutusborn wrote: post #137
oldgradstudent wrote: post #118

Virgin olive oil is more expensive. The most important, and well known confounding factor in observational health research is socioeconomic status - rich people live longer than poor people. This research attempted to control for it in a limited fashion, but that's not nearly enough.

This is so common in these kinds of studies that I tend to ignore them. I saw a similar one recently that linked certain types of meat and dairy consumption to longevity but didn't control for wealth. The real problem isn't diet but being poor.

Yeah, it's almost looks they're written by statistics professors trying to illustrate the concept of confounders.

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Post by brutusborn »

deandublin wrote: post #102
Matthewiiv wrote: post #84

It's almost as if human nutrition and mortality are complex systems and a single foodstuff doesn't have any significant effect. Not only that but surely nobody is surprised that the people who can afford the more expensive version of a product live longer. Why have we not given up on this nonsense idea of miracle foods already?

did you read it? it just says unheated OO is better than the heated stuff. Pretty obvious that heating food can kill the good stuff, if there is good stuff in it to start with, that it.

Where does it say that?
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