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5 Years of Pop _OS

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Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

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Congrats! Pop_OS rebuilt in Rust?? Sounds pretty sweet. Really wish I had enough money for a System76 PC. Go on there at least 10 times a year and build out a PC or two just to dream... Sorry for abandoning my cart with ridiculous PC specs built for one of those hoodie wearing hackers in media photos. Edit: I'm posting too fast so for the person commenting on what boards they use... https://tech-docs.system76.com - h…

They used to sell keyboards too, but there's no keyboards section in the store anymore. However, if you configure a computer and add a keyboard, add the whole thing to your cart, then go into your cart and remove the computer, the keyboard is still there and you can proceed to checkout. I'm not sure if this is intentional.

They still sell keyboards. https://system76.com/accessories/launch

I’m not sure why there isn’t a tab in their nav bar, but they’re featured on the home page.

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

#132

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If you look at my comment history, you'll see I'm a bit of a broken record, but my records don't break anymore after switching to NixOS. It was precisely the breakage after every upgrade that got me to try it. With declarative config-based reproduceable deployment that can be rolled-back, the broken OS doesn't need to be a thing anymore.

Try a buggy kernel and breaking your network in one `nixos-rebuild switch`, garbage-collecting older working generations and trying to fix your config back into working state. Great fun. Other than that, NixOS is a godsend.

You can set Pop OS' themes under Nix based GNOME desktop with ease.

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

#133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you look at my comment history, you'll see I'm a bit of a broken record, but my records don't break anymore after switching to NixOS. It was precisely the breakage after every upgrade that got me to try it. With declarative config-based reproduceable deployment that can be rolled-back, the broken OS doesn't need to be a thing anymore.

I’ve run most OSs under the sun. NixOS is a generation ahead.

How does NixOS compare to running Debian Stable? I've never had problems with upgrades breaking things on Debian stable.

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

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post #107

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Debian is a pain! I just tried installing it on a laptop. During installation it points out it can't find a wifi driver and do I have it to hand? I didn't and I don't know where to find it. It says I can use ethernet, but the ethernet wasn't close to me at the time and laptop's battery was shot so I couldn't move. I proceed without internet. I google how to install non-free firmware after the fact, and find that ther…

Debian recently voted to add proprietary firmware, so your devices should work by default.

What are you referring to? Are Debian's default installations going to include the non-free repositories, which aren't officially part of Debian?

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

#135
Are there any advantages of running Pop_Os instead of Ubuntu? I have an X1 Carbon Gen 9 and have had zero issues with 20.04 and latest upgrading to 22.04.

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

#136

I'm a Linux idiot, just got sick of Windows, and took the plunge in 2016. (After some ill-fated tinkering in 1996 with Slackware, but we don't speak of that.) I started with Ubuntu and had a pretty good time for a year or two, until a dist-upgrade broke everything. Luckily /home/ was easy to restore from backup. So I was fine for another two years on Ubuntu until another dist-upgrade broke everything again. Sensing a…

I think the problem here is that you cause breakage without ever gaining the knowledge of why. Pop_Os might break on you just the same as other distros might, because it's very likely a manual operation that got you there.

"Miraculous" belongs on Windows or OSX, not Linux.

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

#137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Debian recently voted to add proprietary firmware, so your devices should work by default.

What are you referring to? Are Debian's default installations going to include the non-free repositories, which aren't officially part of Debian?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33055100

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

#139
I will translate that very surprising comment whom made my choice :

--start of comment--

[quote]does S76 announces they're targetting to recreate their own desktop from scratcch, or they "just modify things" whom are not really good with the gnome desktop of today, keeping the rest (running GTK if Im well)? [/quote]

Official communication(1) says "we're doing to do our own desktop because gnome extensions are too breakable". Indeed, Cosmic-desktop was until there a gnome modified, with extensions, whom can by definition(2) be bugged/breaked/misfunctionnal at each gnome update. This decision could be comprehensible for a company who install it on computers to sell.

But I think we might not forget the fuming writing(3) that Chris Davies published shortly afterwards. As explained, some S76 devs badmouth a bit regarding Gnome devs riding their bad reputation (not diserved at all imho) and of lost-minded nerds flooding the r/gnome subreddit and comments on OMGubuntu. The announce of Cosmic being rewrited in Rust has been then shown as a divorce between S76 and gnome, on the exclusive wrongdoing of that last one. It personnaly a view whom makes me sick, as some people said it here already. Budgie said more or less the same thing announcing last december they will re-write their desktop environnment in ELF(4), accusing the GtK project of being running for the particular interests of Gnome[teams]. It's very hard for me to see that as something else than a true and real bad faith. Few years earlier, Linux Mint and elementary, decided their own desktop environnment in replacement of Gnome, and the three projects has followed a distinct path while keeping a good harmony (and staying based on GTK!)

it's very frustrating to see those quarrels blocking on the path of the linux desktop adoption, because it's really about it : we're not talking here about niche desktops like sway or lxqt, but about what can permit to a huge amount of users to emancipate of microsoft and Apple. If it's still considered as a relevant idea.

1: omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/11/system76-is-building-its-own-desktop-environment

2: wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey-Patch

3: linuxfr.org/users/anonyme/liens/system76-a-case-study-on-how-not-to-collaborate-with-upstream

blogs.gnome.org/christopherdavis/2021/11/10/system76-how-not-to-collaborate/

4: joshuastrobl.com/2021/09/14/building-an-alternative-ecosystem/

--end of comment--

this is the reason why, on my own, I litterally prefer LMDE, with openbsd and haiku to accompany.

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

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I had one of their systems, a gazelle professional 4 if I recall right, it must've been around, oh say, 2013? And it was quite a nice machine, great linux compat, the 4-core i7 in it performed quite well and it let me load it up with RAM. It wasn't too heavy or anything and I liked the display. But the battery life. Good lord. 45 minutes, 55 if I messed and fussed with power settings and such. Basically gaming-laptop…

I have a XPS 13 and I had arch on it but it would drain power while sleeping. The laptop would be dead overnight. Tried a lot of things but couldn't fix it. Had to go back to Windows.

XPS 13 w/ Kubuntu and I don't have this issue.
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