Openstreetmap.org does not have a satelite baselayer that I can use, so I don't get what you mean.
What they mean is that OSM is not a commercial product that licenses satellite or aerial imagery, so the website does not include this (it's really just a showcase of various info that's in the database, not meant to be fit for any particular purpose, although it's surprisingly good for general use). However, some image sources are available under free licenses, or in Bing's case, a special license for drawing roads…
So you can't use satellite data (of the same detail as on Google maps) without paying is basically the answer to my question if I understand you correctly?
> OSM needs some form of gamification adding to it. Take a look at StreetComplete [1]. It is gamification of updates to OSM. [1] https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.westnordost.streetcomplet...
The last time I submitted a few months worth of my travels at once after doing a hundred or so of these challenges/questions and got a bunch of notifications lambasting me for not updating the moment I did instead of later. Honestly didn't realise you had to manually submit, thought it just happened automatically. Was a really rude intro to the community and reminded me a lot of SO or Wikipedia with its gatekeeping.…
I've seen some gatekeeping in the OSM community as well. In this specific case, this is also (in my opinion) due to bad tooling. Basically the easiest way to keep an eye on an area is to use a tool that shows changesets whose bounding box includes a certain area. So you could make a single tiny edit in both NY and LA, the bbox would ping a huge swath of the US. This happens all the time, actually. It's annoying, but the way I see it that means we need a better way to see changesets that actually affect a specific area.
I prefer OSM to Google Maps when looking at maps. You get better maps with more detail. But, I have to back to GM to find anything with an address. The business database on OSM is poor, and I don't think the system for estimating the location of an address on a street has been particularly good either. They were terrible years ago on GM, so this is part of the evolution. But I can see how OSM will end up better than…
On the other hand, when I need to find a nearest trash container in a new location - OSM is always there for me.
I prefer OSM to Google Maps when looking at maps. You get better maps with more detail. But, I have to back to GM to find anything with an address. The business database on OSM is poor, and I don't think the system for estimating the location of an address on a street has been particularly good either. They were terrible years ago on GM, so this is part of the evolution. But I can see how OSM will end up better than…
Google is on a warpath of advertising to the detriment of its base products. Nowhere is this more apparent to me than Google Maps, mostly because there isn't a great alternative if I want to find businesses near me. Everyone who can help OSM should. There's no reason OSM can't be a wikipedia-quality product, to the point where close source, advertising-beholden alternatives can't meaningfully compete. Add businesses…
There are a lot of problems that still need to be solved with OSM to make it on par with GM's overall utility. (I say that as a very active local OSM contributor and data consumer) Reviews, geocoding, political issues within the OSMF, and incomplete address information to name a few. Some of them can be solved by having more active local mappers, but others I don't have an easy answer for. Hopefully these are growing pains, as I desperately want to see OSM succeed.
Since .ru hosts a LOT of malware that's running wild, and I don't particularly care to view anything on .ru, we'll just agree to disagree. Good arguments btw.
You don't particularly care to view anything on .ru, but you're complaining that you can't open a website (which you'd like to view) which is on .ru. What a bizarre thing to say.
I wonder how to go about to collaborate to the OSM ecosystem with code. Does anyone know what are the cool projects within OSM in C/C++? (i.e. not web stuff)
Take a look at Tippecanoe, which is under active development again[0]. The original developer, Erica Fischer (who is wonderful to work with), has a fork[1] where new work is happening. [0] https://felt.com/blog/erica-fischer-tippecanoe-at-felt [1] https://github.com/felt/tippecanoe
(Co-founder of Felt here) Thanks for the kind words! We are lucky to have Erica on our team. If you ever want to talk maps, my email is can@felt dot com!
OSM needs some form of gamification adding to it. Google Maps app is great, lets you gain points by adding information & photos & reviews etc. They even send you a free bespoke pair of socks or a badge if you're active enough. So fun to add photos and then see how many views they get (I posted one of a chippy in Scotland (for Americans that's Fish & Chip 'Thick French Fries' shop) which got over 1.4 million views - m…
I concur completely. I was having my young son learn how to use the computer focused on input devices and simple UI interactions by having him annotate buildings and pools in OSM for a few random towns friends live in. I thought he'd very much more enjoy this if it was gamified in some way. He did it, got the hang of the UI, but then it grew tedious so he moved on to something else.
The last time I submitted a few months worth of my travels at once after doing a hundred or so of these challenges/questions and got a bunch of notifications lambasting me for not updating the moment I did instead of later. Honestly didn't realise you had to manually submit, thought it just happened automatically. Was a really rude intro to the community and reminded me a lot of SO or Wikipedia with its gatekeeping.…
I've seen some gatekeeping in the OSM community as well. In this specific case, this is also (in my opinion) due to bad tooling. Basically the easiest way to keep an eye on an area is to use a tool that shows changesets whose bounding box includes a certain area. So you could make a single tiny edit in both NY and LA, the bbox would ping a huge swath of the US. This happens all the time, actually. It's annoying, but…
This is the main thing I hate about google maps. I refuse to do free work for google in return for 'fun'.
Try thinking of it as work done to help other real people. I found the "Emergency" door of a local hospital hard to find IRL, so I added a photo of it from the driveway POV. Another sort of real person you can help are the web-clueless owners of local small businesses.
there is some aspect there about how web-savvy business owners can be and how easy it is to bring business to them. It'll be great to see that playing field fleshed out in time.