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Like most things, the dose makes the poison. A little Red Dead is probably great, too much probably bad. Gambling, food, sleep all fall into similar U shaped curves.
Who are we to say how much is the right amount for this person? To play 6,000 hours of this game he must have a reason. Perhaps he's particularly passionate about it, perhaps there is someone in his life he loves to play it with.
Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer
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Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer
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I think Google's biggest flaw in this regard is their own denial of the pattern of shutting things down. If they just acknowledge that's how things go, they can prepare better off-ramps for people who adopted their product. Doing this to your users is a slap in the face because it shows no gratitude for the fact that those people took a chance on your product. They believed in it, and it's not their fault your projec…
ex-googler here. The average Googler hated how many good products were killed. Many want to continue/improve many of the (countless) products that were sunset. I'm sure memegen is on fire as we speak and how Google should be and do better. Sadly, that's not how it works in a corporate. At least not at Google. If your boss moves you off the project and hands you new work, that's how it is. You need to spend ~8hrs/day…
I get the feeling that many were blindsided with the abruptness.
Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer
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Would you say the same about a 6k hour investment coding a game? This "if it isn't productive it isn't worthwhile" attitude is toxic.
If you are doing that either you are sacrificing your work, livelihood or personal relationships. It doesn't matter what for, it's an insane amount of time. Not to mention the game in question has at most what... 100 hours of content ? it's not comparable in any way
Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer
#135So for that many hours Google must have spent more than he did at the game right? How does a business model like this ever become profitable when it is not subscription or usage based?
But there exist business models that operate like this. Usage usually follows a Pareto distribution. At one end, you spend almost nothing on usage, on the other end you spend more than you charged on usage. Assuming your long tail is long enough, and your power users few enough, you take a loss on one end of the Pareto and make your money on the other.
Where these models fail is when you can convert a resource fairly directly into value I.E. compute. Once your customers realize they can put $10 in and get $15 back out, you have a problem.
Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer
#136I hadn't even considered this as a consequence of Stadia shutting down. I naively thought, "Well, everyone is getting refunded for everything they spent, so it's fine." Clearly I was wrong. Of course there are folks that have actual game saves that they're heavily invested in on the platform that aren't easily portable. I feel sorry for this person and hope that Google and its partners like Rockstar work together to…
What does that even mean though? A piece of paper or digital equivalent that lists your in-game achievements? That's worth... a piece of paper or digital equivalent. I mostly don't even get the equivalent for lots of things I spent a lot of time on in real life. I guess I have a diploma somewhere though I don't actually know. (That is at least somewhat verifiable without the original piece of paper.)
I certainly don't expect "achievements" like that to be transferrable other than in a generalized life experiences sort of way.
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I had the same with Factorio, only I actually did get divorced. I went through many attempts to quit - including deleting my Steam account. Eventually I set up the household to Mac & Linux only to help increase the friction. Along with a lifestyle overhaul - new hobbies, and actual sport played outside, non-gaming seems to stick. Gaming addiction is real and it can truly destroy a life.
Factorio is Linux native though.
The lifestyle changes I mentioned have displaced gaming in my dopamine system. I also never want to get sucked in again. That is my main defence.
Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think Google's biggest flaw in this regard is their own denial of the pattern of shutting things down. If they just acknowledge that's how things go, they can prepare better off-ramps for people who adopted their product. Doing this to your users is a slap in the face because it shows no gratitude for the fact that those people took a chance on your product. They believed in it, and it's not their fault your projec…
> I was not a Stadia user, but events like this reinforce my motivation to drop all the Google products I possibly can before they drop me. Ditto. Im literally considering phasing my personal gmail out to a domain that I own...
I set up a new inbox with Fastmail on my own domain and set the Gmail to forward everything to the new address. Then I started updating things whenever I received a forwarded message. Over couple of months everything important got gradually sorted out and I cleaned up the rest based on my password manager.
Now I only keep the Gmail around because of the Google Play purchases tied to it plus the possibility that some old colleague or acquaintance may have the old address saved. But if Google shuts it down it isn't a big loss.
Overall, the benefit of more control definitely outweighs the hassle of switching. I would recommend it.
Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer
#139What are the odds he did this deliberately for exposure, expecting Stadia to be cancelled? It's hard to imagine somebody doing it otherwise, particularly considering he's a 'semi-pro' gamer trying to make a name for himself with online video content. Does he really not have a gaming PC of his own? And if he does, why was he using Stadia instead?
Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think Google's biggest flaw in this regard is their own denial of the pattern of shutting things down. If they just acknowledge that's how things go, they can prepare better off-ramps for people who adopted their product. Doing this to your users is a slap in the face because it shows no gratitude for the fact that those people took a chance on your product. They believed in it, and it's not their fault your projec…
ex-googler here. The average Googler hated how many good products were killed. Many want to continue/improve many of the (countless) products that were sunset. I'm sure memegen is on fire as we speak and how Google should be and do better. Sadly, that's not how it works in a corporate. At least not at Google. If your boss moves you off the project and hands you new work, that's how it is. You need to spend ~8hrs/day…