Santa Cruz is a Housing Nightmare • Hacker News Board

Re: Santa Cruz is a Housing Nightmare

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Post by llampx » Fri, Oct 07, 2022, 10:52 AM UTC

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #3

Sounds like looking for a place in Dublin/Berlin except instead of 24 applicant in 24 hours, a Berlin apartment gets like 200 applicants. Also in the Netherlands, several collage towns have students sleep in tents and container buildings or with university staff.

100s? Try thousands of applicants. Multiple landlords have indicated that they get 1000s of applications in hours/minutes after posting an ad. The situation is dire and the government is doing nothing about it, even on land that they have the power to build on. The green party is famous for blocking any and all housing projects, the left and right both agree that people don't deserve affordable housing.

Re: Santa Cruz is a Housing Nightmare

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Post by llampx » Fri, Oct 07, 2022, 10:57 AM UTC

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #14

lame-robot-hoax wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19491247.2022.2... Relevant: Supply side effects of the Berlin rent freeze Abstract - We find rent decreases accompanied by decreases in supply five times as large. We further investigate spillover effects on the purchase market, regionally heterogeneous effects as well as different effects by dwelling characteristics. We find the rent freeze did not have spillover effects…

> We find rent decreases accompanied by decreases in supply five times as large. If you want something completely FUBAR, you can always trust your local German bureaucrats to do a good job at it, especially in Berlin. I wonder why they haven't tried increasing building supply and limiting external illegal immigration first? Also, why haven't they tried preventing these tax dodging stock market listed real estate mega…

Exactly. People actually argue against increasing housing stock, or building new apartment. They say only new luxury apartments are being built. What do they want, that the builders build old rickety apartments with standards from the 1960s? Any apartment with decent construction is lambasted as being luxury, when a large part of the standards comes from the government itself - they would not give a permit for an apartment to be constructed to 1960 standards in terms of energy efficiency and insulation, windows etc.

When the government is extremely picky about how many permits to give, it is no surprise that only expensive apartments are built first.

Re: Santa Cruz is a Housing Nightmare

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Post by llampx » Fri, Oct 07, 2022, 10:59 AM UTC

paxys wrote: post #77

Sad to say but the only way to get administration to take these issues seriously is to transfer out. Santa Cruz is the bottom feeder of the UC system. The only reason people take it seriously is because of the prestigious "University of California" tag. There are plenty of better schools nearby (including non-UC ones like Cal Poly and several CSUs) that are more worth your money. Or think even beyond that. I went to…

Standard reminder that institutional problems can not be fixed by individual action.

Re: Santa Cruz is a Housing Nightmare

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Post by llampx » Fri, Oct 07, 2022, 11:01 AM UTC

rcpt wrote: post #91

vineyardmike wrote: post #70

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I mostly agree with your sentiment, but I don’t think you’re being very fair to students, and i don’t think this issue is particularly about the students. (and I’m not convinced Prop13 needs to be repealed to solve problems). Students and loans are a different issue and it seems cruel to label them as wannabe UC students who aren’t good enough. All UCs are respectable. I think this issue can be generalized a lot… 1.…

Since 1977 California has had the California Tax Postponement Program to protect low income seniors from the economy. If you're a low income senior and own your house in California you can defer property taxes indefinitely so that no matter what happens to housing prices you'll never feel pressured to move. Several states have something similar (eg. NJ senior freeze) but I think California is the most aggressive. Pro…

What Prop 13 has done is create a class of millionaire boomers, who have a very "fuck you, got mine" mentality.

Great if one of them is your parent and will leave their property to you, not so great otherwise.