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Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by cafard » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 3:32 PM UTC

speakfreely wrote: post #74

joelrunyon wrote: post #4

This type of distance / pace is hard for some people to even grasp. This line helps sum it up nicely: > That’s 7:15 per mile or 4:30 per kilometer for 24 straight hours. Incredible

Anyone who can run 5 miles at 7:15 pace is a pretty well conditioned athlete. If you can keep that pace for an hour, that shows some determination. Multiple hours is an incredible feat. 24 hours is just suprahuman.

Back in the 1980s, a man under 40 had to run a 2:50 marathon to qualify for the Boston Marathon. That's right around 6:30/mile. Quite a few did.

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by jvm___ » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 3:32 PM UTC

elil17 wrote: post #99

ReptileMan wrote: post #93

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When I was cycling I was joking that the bike is not much greener than the car, because it burns 4 ribeyes/100km or 17 miles/ribeye.

I read somewhere that if you’re not at least mostly vegan, e-bikes actually have lower lifecycle carbon emissions than bikes because you end up burning fewer calories and eating less (assuming you don’t substitute in more exercise).

So. Lithium battery powered humans would emit less carbon than regular humans?

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by roddux » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 3:32 PM UTC

sz4kerto wrote: post #25

dmos62 wrote: post #5

I've started running and an unexpected challenge is boredom. The running is challenging as is, but doing it for ~1h30m has been, for me, well, tedious. I guess that's a byproduct of always being within arm's reach of a phone.

This is one of the major benefits of LSD (long, slow, distance) running, especially for people who have (a slight) ADHD (like me). It allows you to have solitude. I can't sit down and think quietly for an hour, because I .. just can't cope with the lack of stimuli. Running provides some baseline stimulus at least (plus I always set a specific goal, either a distance or a time goal so that I don't give it up), so I ju…

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Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by lancesells » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 3:33 PM UTC

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #126

travisjungroth wrote: post #108

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The standard to pass the first phase of US Army Ranger School is 5 miles at 8:00 pace. Those aren't pro runners by any means, but shows a standard for a rather well conditioned group of people. They also need to do 49 push-ups and 59 sit-ups in 2 minutes each, plus 6 pull-ups.

I could easily meet the push up/sit up/pull up bar but I can only run 12 min miles for 5 miles. Pretty interesting how uneven is my conditioning.

I can do the running but not the pushups so maybe we can trade

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by snewman » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 3:33 PM UTC

elil17 wrote: post #99

ReptileMan wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I was cycling I was joking that the bike is not much greener than the car, because it burns 4 ribeyes/100km or 17 miles/ribeye.

I read somewhere that if you’re not at least mostly vegan, e-bikes actually have lower lifecycle carbon emissions than bikes because you end up burning fewer calories and eating less (assuming you don’t substitute in more exercise).

That makes a lot of sense. Intuitively (I haven't tried to run numbers on this), the big efficiency problem with a car – gas or EV – is not that it's using "unnatural" forms of power, it's that you're hauling a 3000 pound vehicle around with your 160 pound human. It's easy to believe that photovoltaic power -> modern battery -> electric motor is far more efficient than photosynthesis -> animal digestion -> human digestion -> human muscle. I wouldn't be shocked if that held up even on a vegan diet, though the difference would be a rounding error compared to the emissions from other aspects of our lives.

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by cafard » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 3:34 PM UTC

stevesimmons wrote: post #110

cafard wrote: post #11

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Back in the 80s, Yannis Kouros seemed to be able to crank out 6:30 miles for many hours a day, for several days in a row. But I don't remember how many hours--eight or ten maybe.

Yannis Kouros was a legend. When I was a teenage, he was a 5-time winner of the Sydney to Melbourne Ultramarathon, from 1985 to 1990. The distance was 800-1000km. It took 5-6 days, running non-stop. He was so much better than everyone else that "in 1988, the race organiser challenged him to start 12 hours behind the rest of the field. Kouros overtook his competitors and won the race with a one-hour lead over New Zeal…

Thanks!

Several years ago, I was running in Rock Creek Park when a couple of men in their twenties passed in the opposite direction, and were apparently discussing Yannis Kouros. He isn't or wasn't forgotten.

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by oakesm9 » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 3:34 PM UTC

nl wrote: post #15

It's worth noting that the previous record had stood since 1997. That's an incredible amount of time for a running record, especially with the huge increase in ultra running over the last 10 years.

I beleive that he broke the 1997 record last year and this was breaking his own record.

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by zeroonetwothree » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 3:35 PM UTC

elil17 wrote: post #79

hammock wrote: post #59

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Eight gallons of gasoline

Humans are much more energy efficient than cars, so it was less than 3/4 of a gallon (100 kcal/mile * 200 miles = 20,000 calories = 0.7 gallons of gas or about 6 pounds of body fat). He's probably much more efficient than 100 kcal/mile though.

Doesn’t this ignore the energy loss from eating and growing the food?

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by chainwax » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 3:35 PM UTC

yubiox wrote: post #40

I want to run but I cough for hours after running. Doc gave me an inhaler but it doesn't do anything. Any ideas? Help!

Anecdotal:

I struggled with exercise asthma for as long as I can remember up until about a year ago (currently 28). I had in my head that I'd never be athletic for this reason. Last year I started heavily lifting weights with a trainer in order to correct some of the slouch I'd developed from programming and mentioned to my trainer that I would never be a runner because of the breathing issues.

I'm not sure if his response to that came from a place of wisdom or not, but he effectively told me to "quit making excuses and get after it" and started integrating runs into my workout. My lunch issues were always exacerbated in cold weather, and this was in November where the mornings were around 38f. It started with ~1km runs and I honestly thought this guy was killing me. I was bringing an inhaler in my truck and would use it between the "warm up" runs and doing weights because my lungs tight and on fire.

I was doing this routine 3 days a week that entire winter, and the length of the warmup run would range from 1-3km. I started noticing the pain less and less as the weeks went by. I actually started enjoying it, and began running on the days I wasn't going to the gym. I worked from 1 mile runs to consistently doing 4-5 5ks a week, with the occasional longer run. I still try to do 3-4 5ks a week to this day.

I hadn't really thought about it until this comment, which is probably what prompted this long-winded response. For me though, the solution was to just keep doing it. Your lungs get stronger.

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by dfc » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 3:36 PM UTC

speedgoose wrote: post #121

ryannevius wrote: post #20

Aleksandr's training is public on his Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/26934035 Something to remember is that this is his pace _after_ pit stops, so his actual running pace was faster. Also notable is that this course was kind of terrible, with four 90 degree turns and three 180 degree turns each lap for 209 laps. There's little doubt that he could run > 200 miles on a course with fewer turns.

I didn’t know you could get a watch with more than 24 hours of battery life including GPS tracking (COROS APEX Pro). The accuracy is a bit weird though, the elevation chart doesn’t make sense.

I don't think it's that big of a deal for good running watches. I ran the JFK50 with a three year old Garmin 935 with a heart strap (HRM-Tri) in a little under 11 hours. My watch was close to 50%. That was with GPS updates every second. It would have been much better if I left it at the default, not the ultratrac or whatever they call the endurance battery mode.