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Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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Post by m000 »

arinlen wrote: post #106
thriftwy wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not defending Cuban regime, merely saying that USA had no problems dealing with other repressive regimes, and that Cuban regime would likely improve if it wasn't pressed in the corner by the USA.

> I'm not defending Cuban regime (...) Well, except you are. You're trying to shift the attention away from Cuba's track record on human rights abuses by arbitrarily picking distractions that frankly you care nothing about, as if pointing out these distractions justified Cuba's long history of oppression and abuse.

> You're trying to shift the attention away from Cuba's track record on human rights abuses

The irony of complaining about human right abuses in Cuba and at the same time operating Guantanamo on Cuban land...

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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Post by Attrecomet »

pjc50 wrote: post #69
qwerty456127 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Automated enforcement is evil and must be banned (except in situations when the violations themselves mostly are automated and come in unbearably huge quantities).

Banning automated enforcement is also the end of free and maybe even cheap services on the Internet.

Nah, it would be the end of politicians demanding ever increasing shitty automation affecting a huge percentage of valid use cases. We didn't have any regulations demanding automated enforcement before it was possible, certain media lobby industries just wouldn't be able to abuse the state to enforce their profits via spurious, entirely untried copyright claims.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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Post by collegeburner »

atemerev wrote: post #64
perihelions wrote: post #39

- "The Office of Foreign Assets Control ("OFAC") of the U.S. Department of the Treasury administers and enforces economic and trade sanctions based on U.S. foreign policy and national security goals against targeted foreign countries and regimes, terrorists, international narcotics traffickers, those engaged in activities related to the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, and other threats to the national s…

E.g. United States have withdrawn their signature from International Criminal Court and will refuse (and actively oppose) being bound by ICC sanctions.

good. America answers to no one save herself.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

antonyh wrote: post #108
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> so in that case you would need to avoid touching anything that is based in the US This does not change much: a, say, French company is bound to follow US regulations anywhere (including in France, not to mention abroad) because the US would punish any interests of this company in the US. This was the case with Iran, and with others. If you are mid-to-small compared to the US/China, you are bullied. If you are very…

I don't think the French government care much because the EU gives them more bargaining power. If they were bound beyond political pressure then we'd have French or EU embargos against Cuba for the last 60 years. France doesn't stand alone nor does the UK despite leaving the EU, which is why I object to US foreign policy spilling over political borders via internet-based tech companies.

We (France) had contracts in Iran. The US decided that Iran is bad.

So far so good.

Then the US said that everyone must leave Iran, and if they do not, their presence in the US will be harmed and they will not be allowed to trade in USD.

We asked the EU for help. The EU said that this is really [bad|unfriendly|unethical|immoral|whatever] of the US to behave that way and that we are, collectively, definitely offended. But that they cannot help.

So we left Iran, together with the rest of EU companies.

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This is just one example of the extraterritoriality that the US does, without any special concerns for international law or relations. One could say "[US|China]are big and strong so they rule", which is true. Not the kind of relationship I would like to have on a personal level.

We frown at bullies in everyday life, but accept this on a national scale.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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Post by Sebguer »

bavell wrote: post #112
Sebguer wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Florida's days of being a swing state will likely be over by the next presidential election. Desantis won by tight margins, but he seems to have done a great job attracting exactly the sort of people who'd vote for him to the state and has consistently worked to gerrymander and restrict voting rights for those who'd vote against him. Crist couldn't even beat Rick Scott for the Senate, and Scott was one of the least p…

How has Desantis restricted voting rights?

Refused to implement the felon voting rights that voters approved in any manner that might actually by equitable. Proposed an extremely gerrymandered district map that was thrown out by a court, but then worked with the state congress to drag his feet on a replacement to ensure it gets used anyway.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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Post by atemerev »

collegeburner wrote: post #133
atemerev wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

E.g. United States have withdrawn their signature from International Criminal Court and will refuse (and actively oppose) being bound by ICC sanctions.

good. America answers to no one save herself.

Absolute hubris corrupts absolutely.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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Post by ahelwer »

npc54321 wrote: post #129

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It's a pretty easy defense when you look at the alternatives, as in who came before (Batista) and what the alternate-world versions of Cuba look like - it's doing incredibly well compared to other island nations in the Caribbean, despite being isolated from the entire world by the US blockade for the past 70 years. They even made their own coronavirus vaccine!

P.S. Fidel is dead, don't know if you've heard.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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Post by stefantalpalaru »

throwawayacc2 wrote: post #86

At the start of this year, I was in Cuba. While in Cuba, I opened my bank app to check my balance. Just that, not to make any transactions. I am a EU citizen. I only have EU bank accounts. The app I used was of a EU bank. There are no EU sanctions against Cuba at this time or at the time I was there. I also have no relation to the USA, I was never there or have business there. A few days after opening my bank app ( a…

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Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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Post by sam_lowry_ »

cpursley wrote: post #95
jhugo wrote: post #74

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> And maybe they do, but overall I don't think the market is that big. Before Trump nixed the JCPoA, Iran had a firm order with Boeing for $16.6 billion worth of aircraft, and a firm order with Airbus for $25 billion worth of aircraft. Taken together, that's one of the largest aircraft orders of all time. Iran is not a small market. > In other news, setting up businesses that go around US sanctions is not something t…

Once Russia resolves their supply chain issues and market substitution on sanctioned inputs, Iran will be a big aircraft market for them. It's not widely known, but Russia has several new commercial jet designs in production.

SSJ-100 and MC-21, both obviously made mostly from imported parts. SSJ-100 is operational with limited success, MC-21 is closer to vaporware.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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Post by infamouscow »

throwawayacc2 wrote: post #86

At the start of this year, I was in Cuba. While in Cuba, I opened my bank app to check my balance. Just that, not to make any transactions. I am a EU citizen. I only have EU bank accounts. The app I used was of a EU bank. There are no EU sanctions against Cuba at this time or at the time I was there. I also have no relation to the USA, I was never there or have business there. A few days after opening my bank app ( a…

Your experience illustrates what Bitcoin folks predict will happen with CBDCs.
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