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iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by gst »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #121
rcarr wrote: post #99

Literally just had to leave a comment on this blog post after reading because he talks about how he's going to start leaving his Garmin InReach Mini at home because he can now use the satellite feature on his iPhone when he's out hiking in the Scottish mountains. As far as I'm aware, the satellite functionality is currently strictly for the US and Canadian markets only. I get that it's a big deal and a great technolo…

Another good reason not to give up the Garmin just yet is having two-way communication on your emergency beacon too. It's not really confirmed or known what Apple is offering here and if there will be any way to communicate with rescuers if you have to initiate a rescue. With Garmin devices you can text both ways and it has been shown in many rescues to be a huge advantage at getting the right search and rescue or ot…

In Apple's video it sounds like there's 2-way communication: https://youtu.be/V35jHAkpUIk (at about 1:20 in the video)

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by Gigachad »

MBCook wrote: post #108
Gigachad wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You probably wouldn't want to use an iphone for a bike computer anyway. The vibrations of being mounted to handle bars can apparently damage the cameras. Much better to just spend a small amount on an actual bike computer, these days they all connect to apps on your phone can can make use of real maps navigation and show notifications from your phone.

See that would be an interesting feature to add. They have sensor-shift image stabilization and some sort of focusing, perhaps they could add a feature to lock all of that so it couldn’t be damaged by vibration while riding a bike.

I think it’s probably a case where they’d tell you to use the right tool for the job. The Apple Watch Ultra is their answer for fitness tracking which does everything you need for post ride analysis. It’s just missing all the live info you get from a bike computer.

But bike computers are likely always going to be nicer to use than a phone because part of what makes them good, makes them bad for normal phone usage. Their displays are quite washed out and dull but are extremely visible in direct sunlight while using minimal power.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by [deleted] »

daggersandscars wrote: post #88
legohead wrote: post #49

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Is that why my wife has been complaining all her pictures make her look like she has a smooth/filter-applied face? She just switched from Android to Iphone 13. I tried playing around with the settings but couldn't make it look 'normal'.

It's certainly a part of it. A comment I left 4 months ago[0]: "After watching far too many videos comparing the iPhone 13 Pro Max, Samsung S22 Ultra, and Pixel 6 Pro, I decided against the iPhone because of the automatic skin smoothing.[1] The iPhone 13 Pro Max removed wrinkles, sun spots, moles, hair, etc to the point where the results looked like overprocessed, manually edited photos. This wasn't subtle -- the rev…

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Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by keepquestioning »

kylehotchkiss wrote: post #58
symlinkk wrote: post #29

Who cares? The improvements here are beyond minuscule. It would affect my life more if Chipotle came out with a new flavor of chicken

Chipotle's Pollo Asado is pretty good if you haven't tried it yet!

There's not too many Chipotle on the west coast.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by dperfect »

drexlspivey wrote: post #119
flutas wrote: post #81

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ProRAW doesn't disable image processing, in fact it even says as much in the link you provided. > Apple ProRAW combines the information of a standard RAW format along with iPhone image processing to offer additional creative control when you make adjustments to exposure, color, and white balance.

ProRAW is regular DNG raw files. In the DNG format you can store metadata like tonemapping masks etc but those are non destructive adjustments, it’s like a layer on top of the raw data. You can open the ProRAW files on any app that reads RAW files and undo any processing without loss of information and do your own processing.

They are DNG files, but I don't think they're truly raw like one might expect from other cameras[1]. I just downloaded the DNG posted in the article and took a look in Photoshop with all post-processing turned off. Definitely looks a bit processed in some of the background details, but I could be wrong.

Specifically, the out-of-focus shadow details look like a smoothing or denoising algorithm has been applied. Maybe it's just something about the optics Apple is using (e.g. different lenses can have distinct characteristics in bokeh, softening, color, distortion, etc) vs other dedicated cameras, but it's something I see in almost all photos coming from an iPhone.

[1] https://kirkville.com/apples-new-proraw-photo-format-is-neit...

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by micromacrofoot »

llbeansandrice wrote: post #118
micromacrofoot wrote: post #86

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Yep, you're old and jaded. I can relate. iPhones and almost all of their features are old news and they're mostly pushing iterative updates or advanced features most people don't have a use for yet (satellite connectivity). Still fantastic technology no doubt, but certainly not the wow of 10 years ago.

Then don’t upgrade? I don’t understand the outrage. So the new iPhone isn’t that exciting to you, so what?

I don’t think it’s outrage or anything, just another way to feel about things

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by adrr »

drexlspivey wrote: post #119
flutas wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ProRAW doesn't disable image processing, in fact it even says as much in the link you provided. > Apple ProRAW combines the information of a standard RAW format along with iPhone image processing to offer additional creative control when you make adjustments to exposure, color, and white balance.

ProRAW is regular DNG raw files. In the DNG format you can store metadata like tonemapping masks etc but those are non destructive adjustments, it’s like a layer on top of the raw data. You can open the ProRAW files on any app that reads RAW files and undo any processing without loss of information and do your own processing.

I still think has denoise, and sharpening added as well as some magic from the other camera sensors. I would like to see a true raw from a single sensor.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by jwagenet »

bredren wrote: post #22
yodsanklai wrote: post #7

I wonder if it's because I'm getting old and jaded, but I really fail to get excited by this continuous flow of new devices (and "stuff" in general). I could get a new iPhone from my company, but I don't even see the point.

I like to use and have my close friends and family use the newest possible iPhones. The reason is that they collect photos and video of each other and in some cases these will be looked at or treasured for years to come. I have a pal who has a baby coming and I reminded him to make sure he gets his iPhone upgrade program replacement done in time. My mom's partner, I ask him to keep his updated because these are photo…

But if you have an iPhone 12 or 13 you don’t need a 14 to capture all those moments. The cameras don’t differ that much and the os archiving and viewing features are the same.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by tartoran »

jxramos wrote: post #96
itg wrote: post #25

The Verge also mentioned that Apple goes overboard when it comes to noise reduction lately with their phones. It becomes really obvious when you compare an iPhone 13 with say a Pixel phone and there have been many complaints about it. Instead it looks like they continued to double down with it on the iPhone 14. It's a shame since they have such good hardware and ruin the pics with their photo processing pipeline.

this confirms all the lousy bizarre looking photos I create at times. I suspected possibly some strange post processing was going on but couldn't confirm it. I assumed I was driving the phone in awkward lighting or some other condition where the post processing salvaged my photo from a blurry mess, but there's no way to tell because like others identified there's no way to turn it off. I remember telling someone abou…

It’s possible it’s an enhancement for the masses where a smill minority of experienced photographers are just pooped on. Apple is known to shove a decision in your face at times only to add a setting later to disable that. I still accidentally enable live photos by accident and I wish I could remove that altogether in the settings. Im still on the old SE and luckily photos aren’t post processed

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by carabiner »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #121
rcarr wrote: post #99

Literally just had to leave a comment on this blog post after reading because he talks about how he's going to start leaving his Garmin InReach Mini at home because he can now use the satellite feature on his iPhone when he's out hiking in the Scottish mountains. As far as I'm aware, the satellite functionality is currently strictly for the US and Canadian markets only. I get that it's a big deal and a great technolo…

Another good reason not to give up the Garmin just yet is having two-way communication on your emergency beacon too. It's not really confirmed or known what Apple is offering here and if there will be any way to communicate with rescuers if you have to initiate a rescue. With Garmin devices you can text both ways and it has been shown in many rescues to be a huge advantage at getting the right search and rescue or ot…

Inreach is awesome for general communication, coordination for non-emergency where there is no cell reception. I've used it at ski resorts and national parks to meet up with people.
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