Dear Oracle, Please Release the JavaScript Trademark

Post by blacksmith_tb » Sun, Sep 04, 2022, 3:55 PM UTC

tomxor wrote: post #128

MattGaiser wrote: post #123

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They don't make any money from devs anyway. They sell their stuff to the business people who then force it onto devs. When I worked in government, we had some Oracle DBs. They were bought without consulting anyone who worked on the tech teams.

For large corporations and gov organisations I can see how that could plausibly be true... for everything else, not so much. At smaller companies the hierarchy is not so rigid or deep, and people are not so siloed, they must work together more closely and feel each others pain. I'm a dev at a such a small company, and in a position that I can make or highly influence such decisions. Oracle products will never be in o…

Post by robertlagrant » Sun, Sep 04, 2022, 6:41 PM UTC

denimnerd42 wrote: post #125

MattGaiser wrote: post #123

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They don't make any money from devs anyway. They sell their stuff to the business people who then force it onto devs. When I worked in government, we had some Oracle DBs. They were bought without consulting anyone who worked on the tech teams.

A business still needs to hire people to work on Oracle db. At my company they have trouble hiring for it. They resort to shared service orgs to provide DBA services. That means one DBA per 10-100 application developers. It’s awful. We do anything to avoid oracle because we can’t get a DBA to help us. Even use hadoop hive for non hive use cases. I guess my point is that these struggles eventually do reach the leaders…

Post by SAI_Peregrinus » Sun, Sep 04, 2022, 9:15 PM UTC

pvg wrote: post #24

gumby wrote: post #12

Can’t you just call it ECMAScript, or are they somehow different these days? Guy Steele told me once that Sun registered it with ECMA so they could tell people (governments?) that it was a registered standard and that ECMA was the easiest/fastest/most compliant way to get there. I’d always thought that ECMA was a weird place to register it.

Can’t you just call it ECMAScript We're at about the right point in the timeline to start calling it YavaScript which both solves the trademark problem and keeps us on the path laid out in prophesy.

Post by clairity » Mon, Sep 05, 2022, 2:06 AM UTC

bugmen0t wrote: post #114

pid-1 wrote: post #100

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If I understand correctly it was a marketing thing (cof cof C#), but also the creators actually had plans to collaborate with Sun and (somehow?) integrate the language with Java.

Oh they did. You could call into the JVM from JS even in early 2010s Firefox. Called LiveScript, I believe.

Post by cryptos » Mon, Sep 05, 2022, 9:57 AM UTC

GekkePrutser wrote: post #95

Haha asking Oracle to give up legal rights. Good luck with that :) :) :) PS I never understood why they called it JavaScript since it has nothing to do with Java.