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Re: New Arrested Development will appear exclusively on Netflix Streaming

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Post by chc »

xsmasher wrote: post #95
tomjen3 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Arrogant nationalist. Not everyone is American and and for that reason gets screwed from everything from current tv (yeah I like to see shows 3 years after they were current) to innovative things like netflix, hulu and even iTunes tv show store.

It will probably come to DVD or be distributed on another channel in your country. If not, it still doesn't grant you a moral or legal right to the content. If you pirate instead of paying then you make distributing to your country unprofitable; that sounds like the opposite effect from what you want.

Interesting that you bring up morality. A lot of people don't actually have a moral problem with free viewing of something that isn't offered for pay in the first place. There may or may not be a legal problem with this depending on your jurisdiction, but morality is precisely the area where these people gain their justification.

This is similar to the popular treatment of abandonware.

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Post by brianbreslin »

plasma wrote: post #132

How will I get to watch this from Australia? We can't get Netflix here.

I think netflix is expanding to australia soon. Streaming only though, no dvd-by-mail. they recently expanded into south america and europe.

Re: New Arrested Development will appear exclusively on Netflix Streaming

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Post by jiggy2011 »

jc4p wrote: post #116
hollerith wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hulu does let you choose in that every few weeks there's a short survey with questions like, How often do you go see first-run movies? Hulu claims that the purpose of the surveys is to customize my "ad experience".

You can also click on "Ad Swap" at the top of every single ad and choose what out of three choices you'd rather see. Honestly I don't see the problem with ads on Hulu Plus. I'm paying for additional licensing fees and being able to watch the videos on any device I own.

Ah , I'm in the UK so no Hulu available to me. The British TV channels have online services but they're typically the same 4 or 5 ads in rotation over and over again (except the BBC of course) and don't appear to be targeted at all.

Re: New Arrested Development will appear exclusively on Netflix Streaming

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Post by sjs »

chrismsnz wrote: post #68

Looks like those outside US are reduced, yet again, to grey-market solutions.

Too bad. This would have been enough for me to reactivate my Netflix account here in Canada, but instead I'll just get it via btjunkie and Transmission.

Re: New Arrested Development will appear exclusively on Netflix Streaming

#137

Post by ansy »

SwellJoe wrote: post #130

I predicted this would happen when Starz pulled their programming. Given how much Netflix is paying for content, they can produce several pretty high end shows, which makes them a direct competitor to HBO, Showtime, etc. But, they have a much better delivery method, from the consumer perspective. This was a no-brainer, and good on Netflix for recognizing the opportunity that Arrested Development presents for them. It…

Netflix bought House of Cards back in March bidding against HBO and AMC [1]. Less than a week later CBS, parent company of Showtime, announced it would pull Showtime content from Netflix even though the contract wasn't going to expire until the summer [2]. No negotiation or warning to Netflix, just "FYI, we're out, thanks." HBO just flat out refuses to license any of its content to Netflix or anyone else for that matter.

And it's not like Netflix isn't willing to pay. Netflix paid $30 million per movie for exclusive early access with Dreamworks. Previously HBO held the contract for only $20 million per movie [3].

Media companies are just telling Netflix to flat out screw off or at best pay a ridiculous sum that nobody else would be expected to pay. Each one has a different threshold. HBO has zero tolerance. Starz had quite a bit up to a point. But eventually they all put on the brakes to keep Netflix in check.

[1] http://arstechnica.com/media/news/2011/03/netflix-locks-down...

[2] http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/23/cbs-will-remove-some-showtime-...

[3] http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/26/business/media/netflix-sec...

Re: New Arrested Development will appear exclusively on Netflix Streaming

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Post by CamperBob »

twoodfin wrote: post #128
CamperBob wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That part of the technology is awesome, but I suppose you'd have bandwidth problems at a large enough scale. What's going to be interesting is when both real-time rendering and motion capture get good enough to serve as a vehicle for live sports. Imagine being able to put the camera anywhere you want, or on anyone you want. That will kill TV sports if nothing else does in the meantime.

Why? Sounds like a lot of work that's best done on expensive near real-time rendering hardware by techs and producers who know what they're doing. If anything, I think it'll make TV sports even more engrossing.

We'll see. I think it's going to be a pretty huge deal once it happens.

Re: New Arrested Development will appear exclusively on Netflix Streaming

#139

Post by kittxkat »

xsmasher wrote: post #97
shrikant wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd wager that a large proportion of the fan noise was probably introduced to the show via less than legal means. For e.g., there was absolutely no way for me sitting in India to have legally watched the show a few years back. As much as you'd like to believe that a niche group of American viewers alone convinced the creators that furthering the show would be a good idea, that's just not true.

I believe DVD sales had more positive impact than piracy. AD is currently the #45 top comedy DVD on Amazon... five years after its release. If you love the show so much then pay don't pirate.

    >> If you love the show so much then pay don't pirate.
Well, you're right. But as someone above me said, those are two completely different use cases.

If you can't watch a show on netflix/hulu right away one day later, it's nearly impossible to use the internet anymore without getting spoilered (one word: DEXTER. I simply wouldn't be able to think about something different, let alone wait fucking 1 1/2 years for that shit to appear legally on DVD). So, in this case, people are much more likely to torrent something, to "quickly catch" up. The other use case however is, that you buy your dvd box, for example after each season, to re-watch your show and show your support. And be proud to own it physically.

Completely different things:

    - Torrent d/l == catching up, satisfying your addiction
    - Buying DVDs == supporting shows/movies you love
A lot of Americans can combine these two because of online services as Hulu or Netflix. Sadly there are other countries where this is just not possible.

Re: New Arrested Development will appear exclusively on Netflix Streaming

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Post by keithwinstein »

ansy wrote: post #137
SwellJoe wrote: post #130

I predicted this would happen when Starz pulled their programming. Given how much Netflix is paying for content, they can produce several pretty high end shows, which makes them a direct competitor to HBO, Showtime, etc. But, they have a much better delivery method, from the consumer perspective. This was a no-brainer, and good on Netflix for recognizing the opportunity that Arrested Development presents for them. It…

Netflix bought House of Cards back in March bidding against HBO and AMC [1]. Less than a week later CBS, parent company of Showtime, announced it would pull Showtime content from Netflix even though the contract wasn't going to expire until the summer [2]. No negotiation or warning to Netflix, just "FYI, we're out, thanks." HBO just flat out refuses to license any of its content to Netflix or anyone else for that mat…

Time Warner is trying to sign people up for their subscription service (HBO) -- is it really in their interest to license their content to a competing subscription service?
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