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Cramming 'Papers, Please' onto Phones

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Re: Cramming 'Papers, Please' onto Phones

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Haxe is really unusual and interesting, and I don't think it gets talked about enough. > Haxe can build cross-platform applications targeting JavaScript, C++, C#, Java, JVM, Python, Lua, PHP, Flash, and allows access to each platform's native capabilities. Haxe has its own VMs (HashLink and NekoVM) but can also run in interpreted mode. Compiling from one language to another isnt particularly unusual, but compiling fr…

> On first impression it sounds unserious—real compilers output machine code—it's tempting to denigrate it by calling it a transpiler.

What? No, this is so wrong. “Real” compilers transform input from a source language to a target language. That’s it. A program could compile a language to itself with functions inlined and it would still be a compiler. Transpiler is a dumb word made up to identify compilers that output valid source for a chosen language.

Re: Cramming 'Papers, Please' onto Phones

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Huh. I got bored of Papers, Please. Guess it's just not my cup of tea. Will have to try Obra Dinn.

Same. Obra Dinn is a much more complicated and interesting game. It's 10x the game Papers, Please is.

Interestingly Lucas Pope says he thinks Papers Please is a better game. As a method of telling a story I think it's as good as you can get - e.g. the gameplay in Obra Dinn doesn't thematically link to the story in the same way - but I'm just don't enjoy the game. I know: you're supposed to be bored, it's supposed to be unwieldy, you're supposed to be frustrated by the rules. But I just want to do something else.

Re: Cramming 'Papers, Please' onto Phones

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post #63

I actually didn't know it was on mobile, so I searched for "Papers Please" on the Google Play store. Only complete garbage came up, and I had to actually go to the website to find a link to the game (which only has 5k downloads!) I wonder if there's a solution to this.

Weirdly I was lookingt to see if there was a papers please on Android last week and concluded it hadn't been ported to mobile because of the results.

Lucky this came up on HN so I found out. If that weren't the case I doubt I'd have thought about it again and wouldn't have ever bought/played it.

Re: Cramming 'Papers, Please' onto Phones

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post #99

Haxe is really unusual and interesting, and I don't think it gets talked about enough. > Haxe can build cross-platform applications targeting JavaScript, C++, C#, Java, JVM, Python, Lua, PHP, Flash, and allows access to each platform's native capabilities. Haxe has its own VMs (HashLink and NekoVM) but can also run in interpreted mode. Compiling from one language to another isnt particularly unusual, but compiling fr…

> On first impression it sounds unserious—real compilers output machine code—it's tempting to denigrate it by calling it a transpiler. What? No, this is so wrong. “Real” compilers transform input from a source language to a target language. That’s it. A program could compile a language to itself with functions inlined and it would still be a compiler. Transpiler is a dumb word made up to identify compilers that outpu…

Transpiler is a very useful word. It makes it clear that the translation doesn't happen from a high-level language to a low-level language as is usually implicitly assumed.

Arguing about the technical definition of compiler misses the point outside of a scientific paper. Connotations are more important than an arbitrary definition you happen to agreee with.

Re: Cramming 'Papers, Please' onto Phones

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I consider both games to be masterpieces, keeping my attention even when I was bored with gaming in general. I also played Helsing's Fire on the iPad, which while not a masterpiece, is still pretty fun!

I like the idea of Papers, Please more than actually playing it, I think. But I never played Helsing’s Fire, thanks for the suggestion!

This may be true, but in the same way that paintings don't have to be "beautiful" to be good paintings, games don't always have to be fun experiences to be good games. I think Papers Please is a perfect example of such a game. I didn't enjoy it so much as that it engaged me in its bleak bureaucracy.

Re: Cramming 'Papers, Please' onto Phones

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> From the article: "Now, here, in 2022, desktop computers no longer exist and all computing is done via handheld mobile telephone." They're kidding, right? Nobody in their right mind actually believes that, do they?

All is hyperbole, since the ergonomics on a laptop are terrible, and there will always be a segment for which that's a showstopper, but it's already true for certain segments of the population. Especially among the less privileged where there may not even be a desktop computer available or only at school/library, mobile phones are increasingly where work is done. Writing essays and emails, and filling out important f…

> the ergonomics on a laptop are terrible

Agreed. Honestly if I had a way to comfortably write software on my phone I don't think I'd ever use my laptop ever again. Phones are simply too comfortable.

Unfortunately the vast majority of them are consumer devices: unlike real computers they don't come with the tools used to program them. I can't make a new app on my phone and run it.

Re: Cramming 'Papers, Please' onto Phones

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This is such a good blog post. I also didn’t know this author was behind Obra Dinn, but that one is also great. I used to play Papers Please years ago and will certainly purchase it when it does come out for iPhone.

It’s available on the iPhone App Store for me!
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