What a despicable human being. He even lied about her crying and being grateful after he left her the flowers.
https://youtu.be/BU6PlJmGNkM?t=75
Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent
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#132The reason this act breaks a moral boundary is that it subverts a principle of "ends" [1]. A genuine random act of kindness cannot occur if it's being filmed. Filming the act turns it into a virtue display. It also turns the subject into an object of utility, a means and not and end in themself. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Ends
Isn't a limitation of Kant's view that intention is all that matters? In other words, neither context or outcome change the morality of the action?
Context has a big impact on intention. This video is a prime example of that.
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't want to tar an entire generation with the same brush, but I have noticed that younger people seem to be really taken in with these very shallow like-farming operations on YouTube and TikTok. Mr Beast is incredibly successful at this, in that his stunts produce massive numbers for very little outlay. A friend's kid in his teens was telling me about how he's the most generous person he's ever seen and it make m…
> " I really don't want to be that guy and wade into it with a "well, actually". " Be that guy; what's your criticism about Mr Beast's generosity? He does a lot of content which could be fake; like giving his friends $20,000, but ones which look more serious and genuine and costly include: - Opened a "free bank" where he loaned money into six figures to local people, then surprise! it's not a loan, they can keep it:…
I don't know how to explain it - if you make your living by being charitable, then the whole act of charity is somewhat lessened, no?
It's like when nestle announces they are going to plant 1 million trees - like yeah, it's very generous of you, no doubt - but you are doing it as a marketing exercise.
Mr Beast is making money this way. I am extremely far from saying that there's anything wrong with it - but it's not charity in my mind. It's just a business that happens to benefit random bystanders from time to time.
Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent
#134I thought media releases were required for image rights before video could be commercialized? I always find these videos cheesy and fake and assumed they had received legal permission (if not hired actors to pose). If these jerks are filming and posing unwilling participants in their product, that seems pretty easy to remedy. I remember a few years ago pornhub had a decision to get positive consent from people in vid…
> I like how the creator offered to take the video down, if asked. No apology and no offer to give back the money he made from the video. I'm sure he would, so long as she gave back the flowers.
She should auction off the flowers.
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#135I sort of feel compelled to quote the Bible here, though I'm not religious. "So when you give to the needy, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do ... to be honored by men. Truly I tell you, they already have their full reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father, who sees what is done in s…
"And your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."
So still selfish (if doing it for the reward), but that is human nature.
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#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Social Media has largely exposed the levels of narcissism embedded in a large number of human's psychological makeup , Selfies, clout chasing and virtue signalling are ever increasing forms of narcissism that really has destroyed the internet IMO
Alternately we could look at Social Media as a defective product. I think it's a much better metaphor. The product has horrible consequences and side effects. It's a for profit making entity, creating a product that often causes people to get hurt or damaged. Like lawn darts.
Well I enjoyed Lawn Darts and disagree with the prohibition on them so if the desire would be to ban social media I would also disagree with it
neither were "defective" products, just because they caused harm does not make them defective, both lawn darts, and social media are working exactly as the manufacturer intended, calling them "defective" is stretching the definition of the term
if you want to make the case of regulation one does not need to nor should the term defect be perverted to be used to get around legal productions (like free speech). Cocaine is banned not because it is defective but because it is harmful, though I also disagree with the banning of cocaine generally because I do not believe it is role of government to protect someone from self harm
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#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
Very common in NYC. Someone on the street will ask you to "have something" or "check out something I'm giving away for free", acting as if it is a gift. As you walk away with said thing, that person will accuse you of stealing and use it as means for a physical altercation.
I'm not sure why someone would do this just to start a physical altercation which seems more likely to get someone in trouble for seemingly no reason. What I've actually seen in NYC is people offering something like a "mix CD" and then ask you for money once you take it.
I see this often in Seattle, especially near the tourist attracting areas. I had a friend get sniped by it and they ended up arguing with the scammer for 20 minutes. Absolute waste of everybody’s energy, I’m surprised it’s not treated as a form of harassment by the authorities.
Re: Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent
#138If you don't even ask before publishing you're an asshole and it's rightfully illegal.
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#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
The corresponding Qur'an verse (because they're all faces of the same coin): " To give charity publicly is good, but to give to the poor privately is better for you, and will absolve you of your sins. And Allah is All-Aware of what you do. " Al-Baqarah 272
I don't think that the bible says that giving to the poor will absolve you of your sins. So maybe not the same coin.
Coins usually don't have the exact same thing on each side, just the core value is the same.
Which is my being pedantic on the coin side, to point out that pedantry isn't really needed on the metaphorical side.
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#140The video itself was quite off-putting when I first saw it. He didn't even just kindly offer her flowers. He _tricked_ her into taking them by making it sound like he just wanted her to hold them for him. She was actually being kind to him by doing him a favor, and then he basically ran away and stuck her with them. That's not kind at all, it's pushy and exploitative. As someone who doesn't usually like to accept gif…
Obviously the most exploitative thing is doing it for the clicks, but none of this has ever felt "sweet" or "positive" or whatever other guise they're presented as. I wonder who finds this type of content genuinely appealing?
The answer is always ‘kids’.