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Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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Post by doliveira »

isitmadeofglass wrote: post #93

There are some questionable ones in between there. > Obey in all things the commands of those whom God has placed in authority over you even though they (which God forbid) should act otherwise, mindful of the Lord's precept, "Do what they say, but not what they do." This would have you willingly submit to sexual assault by a priest. And really should be revised considering the slew of cases against the church, or at…

Yeah, one of the most problematic views indeed. "Don't touch the Lord's anointed ones" is a mandate commonly used for religious leaders to discourage any sort of criticism of their actions.

Beliefs like this do matter. They inform the actions of millions of people across the world.

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

fooey wrote: post #122
logifail wrote: post #113

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> a set of beliefs The elephant in the room in many current attempts to encourage "diversity" is that a genuinely diverse range of opinions and/or beliefs ends up being not welcome at all.

Paradox of Tolerance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance > The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant. Karl Popper described it as the seemingly self-contradictory idea that in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must retain the right to be intolerant of intolerance.

We need a new secular code-society, where we separate code from personal beliefs, and assign "societal points" only by merit.

The problem with tolerance and intolerance is, that a few people (a loud minority) think they're the universal good guys, even in cases where their "good thing" is incompatible with itself.

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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Post by gunfighthacksaw »

logifail wrote: post #113
thaneross wrote: post #96

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I can't help but notice the contrast with the popular, Contributor Covenant Code of Conduct, which makes it abundantly clear its aim to enforce a set of beliefs on its contributors, with no boundaries between professional and personal life.

> a set of beliefs The elephant in the room in many current attempts to encourage "diversity" is that a genuinely diverse range of opinions and/or beliefs ends up being not welcome at all.

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Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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Post by sorokod »

Lio wrote: post #80
sorokod wrote: post #62

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Oh I don't know, they could build computers using mechanical contraptions. You can do a lot in a thousand years if you put your mind to it.

I don't know that sounds like mechanical praxis to me. If it wasn't grandfathered in then it was probably banned in a Convox.

That is possible.

Maybe some avout would develop a discipline where they execute programs in their minds. Some sort of Chinese Room setup but for general purpose computing.

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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Post by iasay »

diegoholiveira wrote: post #127
iasay wrote: post #66

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I think you entirely managed to miss the point there. People don't tell you they lost their faith. They just stop following their code of ethics that was bound to it. I trust a faceless corporation over this attitude.

> People don't tell you they lost their faith. They just stop following their code of ethics that was bound to it. Not sure if this is true. Most Western values came from Christianity, even though the society today is not as religious as it was in the past.

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Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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Post by bitwize »

thaneross wrote: post #96
molyss wrote: post #11

seeing as some people have already added some comments criticizing the code of conduct, I thought I'd add what I think is the most important parts of that code of Ethics : > No one is required to follow The Rule [...] or even think that [it] is a good idea. [...] anyone is free to dispute or ignore that idea [...] > This is a one-way promise [...]. the developers are saying "we will treat you this way regardless of h…

I can't help but notice the contrast with the popular, Contributor Covenant Code of Conduct, which makes it abundantly clear its aim to enforce a set of beliefs on its contributors, with no boundaries between professional and personal life.

The Contributor Covenant is the gold standard for a reason: it is a response to the bigotry and harassment problems that were endemic to the open source communities. Alone it doesn't achieve much, but combined with a good faith enforcement board it helps keep a community a pleasant, joyful place to contribute to, for everyone. And that will increase software quality and attract quality people, aside from being, you know, the right thing to do.

The SQLite developers (developer?) are not interested in inviting more contributors to the table and that's fine, but for a functional public community the Contributor Covenant or something like it is pretty much table stakes.

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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Post by jhgb »

iasay wrote: post #125
claytongulick wrote: post #115

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You trust a faceless corporation more than someone who demonstrates the ability to learn, grow and adapt their thinking over time? You and I see this differently.

The corporation is more likely to be accountable from experience.

Corporations and accountable? Those things all too often don't belong into the same sentence in Western societies. Individuals get into prison all the time for transgressions much more minor than what corporations can get away with just by paying often a ridiculous fine. I'd say that individuals are much more beholden to accountability.

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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Post by iasay »

jhgb wrote: post #137
iasay wrote: post #125

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The corporation is more likely to be accountable from experience.

Corporations and accountable? Those things all too often don't belong into the same sentence in Western societies. Individuals get into prison all the time for transgressions much more minor than what corporations can get away with just by paying often a ridiculous fine. I'd say that individuals are much more beholden to accountability.

Yes orders of magnitude more accountable than the religious contribution to ethics of an individual.

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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Post by kingofpandora »

diegoholiveira wrote: post #121
deepsun wrote: post #52

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Or Ancient Greece (and later Rome), some 500 years before the monasteries.

> Or Ancient Greece (and later Rome), some 500 years before the monasteries. And we know this because monasteries kept a large army of monks guarding the knowledge so that it would one day serve society.

Much of ancient Greek knowledge comes to us because the Arabs preserved it. Some of them were Christians of course (so the occasional monastery may have been involved) but mostly not.

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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Post by jhgb »

iasay wrote: post #138
jhgb wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Corporations and accountable? Those things all too often don't belong into the same sentence in Western societies. Individuals get into prison all the time for transgressions much more minor than what corporations can get away with just by paying often a ridiculous fine. I'd say that individuals are much more beholden to accountability.

Yes orders of magnitude more accountable than the religious contribution to ethics of an individual.

Sounds like a category error to me.
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