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Rare ‘triple’ La Niña climate event looks likely

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Post by boffinAudio »

defrost wrote: post #63
Andaith wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wild to me is that apparently there's only one place on this continent that grows lettuce. It seems like a bit of an all-your-eggs-in-one-basket thing to have one valley in QLD(I think) that does lettuce for the nation, and they have some bad weather and suddenly we're all sans-lettuce.

Many rural areas in Ausralia have small scale local area market gardens, here in W.Australia most everything I eat is sourced within a 15 - 20 km radius be it flour, olive oil, lambs, oranges, etc (even the odd banana and a fw mangos) - but that's a far cry from the dedicated single crop volumes required to supply cities and for export. Worldwide there's an issue with regions being devoted to mainly a single crop int…

>(even the odd banana and a fw mangos)

Carnarvon represent!

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Post by cinntaile »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #7
sen wrote: post #5

It’s been intense here (SE Australia). It’s just been raining for weeks now without stopping. I think we’ve had 2 sunny days in the last 4 weeks? Crops are dying, lettuce costs $10 each (if you can find them), internet keeps dropping out cos of shittily buried lines, drains overflow and flood the streets constantly, and the kids are going up the walls. I know it’s normal for lots of areas of the world (and I’ve lived…

I follow an Australian hydroponic gardener and general tinkerer on YouTube named Hoocho and he has documented a bit of the mess the weather has caused lately. It’s extremely disheartening. One thing he noticed is that the water has pushed ants to find new places to live (including his growing enclosure, where they’ve made a home in his electrical box), and they’ve brought aphids to farm along with them. Obviously thi…

Are those 3D printed plastics food-grade?

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Post by j-bos »

distances wrote: post #130
pram wrote: post #50

The situation in Lake Mead is horrific. I’ve been watching a YouTuber that has been filming various locations around the basin for the past couple months. It’s one thing to hear “the lake is doomed” and another to see it disappearing as the days go by: https://youtu.be/NCBG_aVkv4s

Off topic, but is it common to just bring your boat with you for recreational purposes? The whole idea seems pretty wild to me. Where are the boats for the rest of the time, just in people's backyards? Or do they have a permanent pier spot in some other, more stable body of water like you'd usually expect with boats?

In the US lots of people have boats they keep in garages, backyards, parking lots, sometimes boat yards.

Re: Rare ‘triple’ La Niña climate event looks likely

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Post by nlitened »

bruce343434 wrote: post #128
lrhegeba wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2 x 3 years would be 6 years. 1950 to 2022 are 72 years. So 6 years of 72 years would be 8,3 percent. YMMV if this can be considered rare

The "event" is that it takes/repeats 3 years in a row. So 2 in 72.

2 in 24 three-year slots, so 8.3% again

Re: Rare ‘triple’ La Niña climate event looks likely

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Post by RobertoG »

pram wrote: post #50

The situation in Lake Mead is horrific. I’ve been watching a YouTuber that has been filming various locations around the basin for the past couple months. It’s one thing to hear “the lake is doomed” and another to see it disappearing as the days go by: https://youtu.be/NCBG_aVkv4s

Thanks for the link. That video is crazy to me.

All that people waiting for hours in huge pickups, with the motor on, in order to put their huge boats in the water, while complaining how the water just go down and down every year. There is a metaphor there somewhere. I get some Rapa Nui vibes.

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Post by sen »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #7
sen wrote: post #5

It’s been intense here (SE Australia). It’s just been raining for weeks now without stopping. I think we’ve had 2 sunny days in the last 4 weeks? Crops are dying, lettuce costs $10 each (if you can find them), internet keeps dropping out cos of shittily buried lines, drains overflow and flood the streets constantly, and the kids are going up the walls. I know it’s normal for lots of areas of the world (and I’ve lived…

I follow an Australian hydroponic gardener and general tinkerer on YouTube named Hoocho and he has documented a bit of the mess the weather has caused lately. It’s extremely disheartening. One thing he noticed is that the water has pushed ants to find new places to live (including his growing enclosure, where they’ve made a home in his electrical box), and they’ve brought aphids to farm along with them. Obviously thi…

Thanks for the mention of Hoocho, hadn't heard of him and binging his videos right now as I've started building an aquaponics setup and a greenhouse to grow more of my own food.

The ants thing is very random and very real too. My paint cupboard in the shed (where I keep all my spraypaints/chemicals) became an ants nest a few weeks ago thanks to the rain. I opened it up and every single surface was crawling with a full blanket of ants. I'd never seen anything like it in my life. Things we're going to see more and more of I guess.

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Post by interestica »

jsemrau wrote: post #112
igitur wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In South Africa La Niña is also associated with a wetter season and El Niño with a dryer season.

That sentence was much more confusing to me than it should have because "wetter" in German means weather. Thought it was interesting.

Wetter and higher temps? (Le temps can mean 'weather' in French).

Re: Rare ‘triple’ La Niña climate event looks likely

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Post by bruce343434 »

nlitened wrote: post #134
bruce343434 wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "event" is that it takes/repeats 3 years in a row. So 2 in 72.

2 in 24 three-year slots, so 8.3% again

Why would you count in 3 year slots? You're saying that it could happen on 1950, but not 1951, and not 1952, but again on 1953?

What if there was La Niña on 1952, 1953 and 1954? Your method does not account for that. Natural events and climate do not adhere to someone's made up "mod 3" date statistics.

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Post by lm28469 »

stareatgoats wrote: post #120

Climate science is in its infancy. No I'm not a "climate denier": we can can be reasonably confident that the science is correct in asserting that we are in a period of climate warming, caused in large part by increased CO2 levels in the atmosphere, to the most part caused by the accelerated burning of fossile fuels. But the predictive powers of climate science is low, which this article (among others) illustrates. W…

> We need to stop the focus on how we can influence the changing climate and start thinking about how we can adapt to various scenarios.

It's much easier to tell people to buy a Tesla than to tell them their children/descendants will have a much worse time on this planet.

There are many things we could do to adapt and curve the issue, but it looks like we're going to suck every last bit of resource of this planet until it kills us.

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Post by vdo »

In Anchorage, Alaska we’ve had less than an inch of rain in the last 41 days. We had a 13-acre wildfire in a park in town yesterday that they estimate they can’t fully extinguish for a few days. Statewide, over one million acres have burned so far this season. It is crazy dry and hot.
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