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Launch HN: Astro (YC W21) – Build your own dev teams in Latin America

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Re: Launch HN: Astro (YC W21) – Build your own dev teams in Latin America

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Hey this looks pretty awesome. Currently I work in LATAM for international corporations and it is also hard for us, developers, to find a good fit. Dealing with Latin American agencies is always a pain, it seems Astro might attract companies that care more about their people and building quality, long term relationships. What are you doing to treat candidates like human beings? How do developers join your roster?

Yeah you don't really need a middle man to "take care of payroll." Most developers in Latam prefer to be contractors on paper, and have a direct relationship with the employer. Most agencies take a 30-50% cut of what employers pay, way better for developers to skip the middleman

Yeah, good point, of course direct freelancing is always on option. We believe that we provide enough info so that everyone can make a rational economic decision.

For example, the way customers pay is : 1) Customers pay for the developer's salary "en mano", which is specified by the developer, not us, 2) Customers pay for a standard benefits package and taxes (Health insurance, education, equipment etc.) and 3) Customers pay our 15% management fee (charged to the customer, not the developer)

That setup, of course, may not work for everyone, but we do have great companies, companies whose names we would recognize, that feel more comfortable using a US business entity that they can sign contracts with to move specialized equipment, like locked down macbooks, installing special software on work equipment, or specialized local network equipment, etc.. These companies have physical security requirements that makes it tough for them to directly hire freelancers. Thus we bring those kinds of opportunities to our teammates that would be otherwise localized only certain US cities.

Re: Launch HN: Astro (YC W21) – Build your own dev teams in Latin America

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We kept encountering the same issues you mention. Our teammates weren't satisfied with the outsourcing company and didn't like being interleaved between projects (formally or informally). And with negotiating down lower rates, the clients they tended to attract weren't exactly tech companies, which was uninspiring for our latam teammates. We believe that by providing a platform that lets tech companies provide a prem…

Dude - it's way better for companies to hire developers directly, no need for a middle man like Astro that's charging 15% (eg. 15% of $80k/yr = $12k/yr in middle man fees)... platforms like letsdeel.com or remote.com charge as little as $50/mo per person to take care of compliance and payroll

Yeah, we get the concern that Astro is just a middle man. Let me give a concrete example for why we think we provide more value than that.

We work with a few companies, whose names people would recognize, that feel more comfortable using a US business entity that they can sign contracts with to move specialized equipment, like locked down macbooks, installing special software on work equipment, or installing specialized local network equipment, etc..

These companies have physical security requirements that makes it tough for them to directly hire freelancers. Through our platform we bring those kinds of opportunities to our teammates that would be otherwise localized only certain US cities.

It's also common for freelancers to come onto our platform for various reason, 1) they didn't get paid by the customer or the customer withheld payment for onerous project tweaks 2) "contractors" were the first to get fired when times got tough, 3) "contractors" didn't get access to certain dev environments thus limiting their growth, etc.

We understand it's not a solution for everyone, that's why we describe our business model clearly, and people can decide if what Astro brings to the table is worth it!

Re: Launch HN: Astro (YC W21) – Build your own dev teams in Latin America

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I tried creating a team, then I got an error saying "There were an error".

Thanks for letting us know stg. Sorry about that, we'll look into it immediately.

In the mean time, I'm happy to setup you up on my end. Would you mind emailing me? You can find my email in my profile.

Re: Launch HN: Astro (YC W21) – Build your own dev teams in Latin America

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Really good question. Honestly, it was word of mouth and referrals. I had a successful career as a software developer and product manager for various startups and large companies in the Austin area. Eventually I had colleagues that went off to leadership positions at other companies. Jacqueline was similar but on the sales side. The biggest advantage we had in getting started was trust. Also in the beginning, we didn…

Very interesting. Great to see you leverage the circle you had to take the business to the next level. One thing I have a buddy of mine is he is unable to scale or secure big contracts. We have a slightly different business than yours, instead of creating remote teams for US companies, we abstract that requirement all together! We instead work exactly what the requirements are and take it to completion. We offer on m…

Happy to jump on a chat on work through this together, I hope i can be helpful! Checkout my profile to see my email address and send me a DM! we'll get in touch.

Re: Launch HN: Astro (YC W21) – Build your own dev teams in Latin America

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I tried creating a team, then I got an error saying "There were an error".

Thanks for letting us know stg. Sorry about that, we'll look into it immediately. In the mean time, I'm happy to setup you up on my end. Would you mind emailing me? You can find my email in my profile.

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Re: Launch HN: Astro (YC W21) – Build your own dev teams in Latin America

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Thanks for letting us know stg. Sorry about that, we'll look into it immediately. In the mean time, I'm happy to setup you up on my end. Would you mind emailing me? You can find my email in my profile.

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Re: Launch HN: Astro (YC W21) – Build your own dev teams in Latin America

#139

Why Latam? Which countries do you have operations on?

I had worked with a team in Colombia before and I speak Spanish, so we initially gravitated towards hiring people both in the Austin, TX and Colombia.

We found really great teammates, who spoke great english. We also loved the US timezones, it was possible to be more responsive to our US customers.

And finally, I was surprised at how much overlap in culture we had as software deveopers. For example pop culture like movies, shows, video games, anime, music, etc.

It was a really good fit!

Re: Launch HN: Astro (YC W21) – Build your own dev teams in Latin America

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Not to be a downer, but that's pretty expensive. I spent last week in [latam capital city] and met with 3 local outsourcing firms, down from 6 that I'd pre-screened by Zoom. I then reduced the list to 2 based on the co-founders of each being technical, and their solid recruiting practices. Both have offices which devs are free to come into (or work remotely), both pay salaries and offer benefits, both provide embedde…

Not a downer at all! We're not a fit for everyone. We totally get that. We let the devs set their prices, and then have a standard premium benefits package because we believe everyone should have silicon valley level perks. We're definitely not the cheapest, but we're invested in a long-term relationship for both parties and not just a cost-savings play. In our experience, turnover ends up being super high with low r…

Honestly, reading many comments from potential customers and their complaints, and then reading your answers, while me being from Colombia and knowing many developers who could benefit from your vision, I thank you.

While the others seem to care about cost-cutting to catering to their customers, you seem to also care about the developers, and this is a breath of fresh air. I hope many of my friends in Colombia will benefit from your initiative.

The idea of extending Silicon Valley level perks is the one that works in the long term. I wish you and the developers all the success.

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