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Re: 700M users and Premium

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Post by Macha »

okamiueru wrote: post #125
izacus wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While you MAY need a number to sign up, you don't need to GIVE your number to other people so you can communicate with them over the service.

I don't understand. I've been using telegram for some years. Could you explain how you would go about using telegram without "signing up"? And by "a number" I understand it to be an option of "not your phone number"? How does the verification go then?

I think from the reply that they're talking about "Your contacts do not need your phone number, they can message you with just your telegram screen name", but this is different from "Telegram needs your phone number" and "People with your phone number can find your Telegram account from their contacts".

Re: 700M users and Premium

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Post by Macha »

skyyler wrote: post #130
okamiueru wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand. I've been using telegram for some years. Could you explain how you would go about using telegram without "signing up"? And by "a number" I understand it to be an option of "not your phone number"? How does the verification go then?

I believe they are saying that Telegram doesn't expose your phone number to other users on the app unless you explicitly allow it to. I only use Telegram, no WhatsApp / Messenger so I had no idea that this was normal for other chat apps. Terrifying.

Whatsapp shows the phone number as it is your user identifier (and I believe this is also true for Signal).

This is not true for Messenger, where it's your facebook account as your identifier.

Re: 700M users and Premium

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Post by f1refly »

fritigern wrote: post #77
Barrin92 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well I don't think that and nobody demanded that. Telegram merely has to comply regionally concerning in this case German users or content shown to them. Tech companies differentiating their products to comply with local laws is common practice.

There are no purely "German users". People travel. People talk to people from other countries. Chatrooms have people from all over the world.

Never stopped nsa and friends, never will.

Re: 700M users and Premium

#135

Post by lucb1e »

Read the whole post and I have just one small question... where the heck do I sign up? There is no link, no steps to follow, there is no update available for my clients that would perhaps spawn a subscribe button somewhere... how much does premium even cost? I don't get it.

I want to buy it, I've been wanting to pay for this service for so long (it just feels so shady this whole time, it's gigabytes of (unencrypted) storage for free? WCPGW), I just can't figure out how to buy this.

Re: 700M users and Premium

#136

Post by dmix »

rg111 wrote: post #70

Many people are asking what are in Telegram that aren’t anywhere else? I can provide some answers. Telegram is my primary chat app. - It offers you to simply share an alphanumeric handle and you can connect with anyone in the world. I can do a voice chat or normal chat really quickly and easily. It is the only famous truly Instant Messenger there is. And I can do it without sharing my name (unlike FB), email address,…

> Emojis can only be PG-13 and "wholesome" (like banning gun emoji and replacing it with water gun- where I live no one owns guns - and guns are irrelevant to my politics and everyone else's). Telegram's stickers are really fun and creative.

I appreciate stuff like this too. I hate being treated like a child.

Sometimes I want to express "just shot me" with an emoticon, which a watergun ruins.

Re: 700M users and Premium

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Post by antirez »

lucb1e wrote: post #135

Read the whole post and I have just one small question... where the heck do I sign up? There is no link, no steps to follow, there is no update available for my clients that would perhaps spawn a subscribe button somewhere... how much does premium even cost? I don't get it. I want to buy it, I've been wanting to pay for this service for so long (it just feels so shady this whole time, it's gigabytes of (unencrypted)…

They will start the rolling out in the next days.

Re: 700M users and Premium

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Post by dmix »

DocTomoe wrote: post #66
tucnak wrote: post #36

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Better a GRU-managed honey pot than a CIA-managed honey pot. My country is a vassal to the US, not the Russians, and GRU power over me is considerably less threatening.

I feel the same way about TikTok. I'd rather have a Hong Kong based company with a threat of Chinese interception because I don't give a shit if the Chinese have my data (at least I dont yet).

I do care about using US/Canada/UK/German/etc apps where you know at least 75% of your data is ending up in some database of a country you live in or your country is has a free-wheeling data sharing policy (with some rubber stamp exceptions which foreign partner interception easily bypasses).

Re: 700M users and Premium

#139

Post by lucb1e »

kriops wrote: post #102
fritigern wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you get E2EE and also have multiple devices all sync'd? This is awful in Signal, it barely works to have multiple devices.

Yes, see Matrix. And imo generally better UX than Telegram on account of having a large selection of clients.

You're the first that I hear saying something has better UX than Telegram, and a Matrix client at that. Power to you, but from my experience with everything from Telegram to Threema and a lot in between, it sounds odd to me.

Re: 700M users and Premium

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Post by scns »

BoumTAC wrote: post #7
bathory wrote: post #2

Looking at the in-app purchase on iOS in Europe, the price seems to be about EUR 5.50 which I find to be quite steep, for these kinds of features. I've been wanting to support TG's development for a while now, but I would have hoped that this would be more in the vicinity of 1-3 Euros per month.

I think that's the main issue with those small subscriptions. We don't have an American salary here. I would happily pay for Telegram premium for 2-3€/month and have only a third of the features they propose. But 5-10€ for every service like this becomes expensive at the end of the month. I have the same issue with hey.com email provider, but they are too expensive too. I would love to have an email service provider…

https://posteo.de offers email for 1€ a month
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