Can confirm. Sometimes there are full DAYS where there is some error and it will not play music at all… I’m paying for it and it won’t play anything. I’ve submitted big reports multiple times. It’s not good enough.
Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use
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#132The one thing that sours the entire experience for me is that songs take like 5-15s to start playing when selecting one that isn't super popular. This happens on my ipad, mac, android phone. It feels like some server is spinning up a hard drive to stream it. Apart from that, why the hell is the title and artist only shown in one line that starts scolling instead of showing multiple lines if it doesn't fit, at least i…
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#133For me th worst aspect of Apple Music is that I cannot form a mental model of how it is supposed to work. I just have no clue.
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#134I’m not saying it’s the best app I use, but I feel like I’m taking crazy pills reading this thread. I’ve used Apple Music since it launched and I haven’t had an issue since the first few releases.
It’s a HN thread on an article about the problems with ________; I’m not sure what else you expected :)
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
The "comparing royalty payouts" talking point needs to die. Read this article to learn how $ payouts per stream are determined: https://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2022/02/music-streaming-real... It's all pro-rated. 52% of Apple Music revenues go to labels, by contract; Spotify is around the same. Royalties are just revenues divided by # of streams (simplification). Spotify's free users give lower royalty rates per strea…
Are you saying the table is wrong? I don't see that in your response. If the table is right, then artists are making less money per stream on Spotify. An artist might make more in absolute terms if there are more total streams on Spotify, but the artists are still being devalued and they would do better if the rates were higher. Personally, I want to use a service that values and pays artists well. ("Well" is a relat…
My point is that Apple Music payouts are an identical percentage of their revenues to Spotify's; that means that any campaign to make people switch to AM will just mechanically make AM payouts decrease, and Spotify payouts increase until they converge.
Right now, Apple pays more per stream either because they may have more users in richer countries (Indian users don't pay $10/month), users who listen to less music, maybe older users (fewer students on student plans) and because they have no free tier.
So: the "AM has higher royalty payouts" is objectively a false Apple marketing point, because it's zero-sum. It's a pure accounting gimmick. Royalty payouts are pro-rata; there's no such thing as "Spotify's chosen royalty payout". For Spotify to get as high as Apple's, they'd need to make discoverability terrible (fewer hours listened per month = fewer streams = higher payouts per stream), get rid of their free tier, etc. They can't just "decide to increase payouts" because that's 52% of revenues, same as Apple Music, by contract.
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#136Let me add:
1. The playing song's time elapsed and time remaining are only displayed when you hover over the toolbar and disappear otherwise. WTF?!?
2. Sometimes when I press play, the app goes into an endless shuffle where it keeps selecting new random songs and doesn't play anything. I have to quit the app and start over.
3. The delete key stopped working in a selected song in a playlist on Monterey.
4. The Filter field doesn't appear in the window unless I press option-command-f first. Sigh.
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#137Be careful if you ever get a suspicious billing email.
Apple decided my credit card expired (it didn’t).
Unlike other services, if you stop paying, it deletes your entire library (including playlists) from all your devices. So if you want to switch to another music service, you’re hosed.
I’ve been fighting for a week or so now to get my playlist data via the privacy tools. Just yesterday they decided to give me a list of all my app downloads, instead of what I asked for.
Apple wants me to pay to get back access, but I’m not willing to give their services division another $0.01 until they stop treating customers like shit.
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
>These streaming platforms are so bad. We had better software in the 90s and 00s. You are sitting in a chair in the sky . I can play any music I want right now for a £10/month fee. In the 90s I was buying CDs with five good songs and five filler for £15. In the 2000s I was finding stuff that I could pirate, downloading it, and playing it on my beige desktop computer because there was no such thing as a smartphone.
If there was music I wanted to listen to, OiNK[1] had it. Had it been allowed to survive, I'm sure it would have evolved into something far better than our current options. I'm willing to pay for music but not a huge fan of songs/albums randomly disappearing from my library due to some licensing decision[2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oink%27s_Pink_Palace [2] https://old.reddit.com/r/spotify/comments/5ph69t/wh…
I've never had an experience quite like Oink when it came to catalogue curation and community.
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#139I like Apple Music because it integrates well with the Apple line. More importantly though it is one of the highest paying per stream to artists [1]. Streaming needs to be much more lucrative for artists and consumer choice helps that. It is nice to be able to buy the music as well if you want to support. Being part of Apple One is huge as well. The latest music streaming royalty rates are as follows. PLATFORM ROYALT…
lol this magnitude of royalty does not meaningfully broadly move artists into gaining a livable wage. let's expect more please. what a neoliberal idea to support specific choice of streaming platform purchase as a moral decision
What do you think would be a fair amount to pay per stream?
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
These streaming platforms are so bad. We had better software in the 90s and 00s. These trillion dollar corporations can't beat literally decades old technology. The only reason these little services even exist in the first place is to satisfy the whims of copyright monopolists. How many more steps backwards must this industry take before they're satisfied?
>These streaming platforms are so bad. We had better software in the 90s and 00s. You are sitting in a chair in the sky . I can play any music I want right now for a £10/month fee. In the 90s I was buying CDs with five good songs and five filler for £15. In the 2000s I was finding stuff that I could pirate, downloading it, and playing it on my beige desktop computer because there was no such thing as a smartphone.
> In the 90s I was buying CDs with five good songs and five filler for £15.
That is unfortunate. In the early 2000s, I was cleaning up buying used CDs for $1 on Half.com and Amazon.
The whole thing about "1 good song on a 10-song album" is a remnant of Steve Jobs' iPod marketing pitch designed to get people buying songs piecemeal for 99c on iTunes.
Regular people buy music if they want to support the artist. Trying to maximize the number of good songs per dollar spent is a kind of alien calculus that's led us down this path of algorithm-driven one-hit-wonder hell.