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Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by cassianoleal »

jaywalk wrote: post #121
cassianoleal wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They are not a general purpose VPN service, and can't even be used as one. I'm not sure what you mean by this, but this sounds like exactly what they are, with some functionality on top. It's what I use to VPN into my LAN from outside, and it's pretty general purpose from where I stand.

I'm talking about services like NordVPN, Mullvad, etc. They do not funnel your Internet connection through their servers.

Ah, fair enough.

Those are not general purpose VPNs though.

In fact, they are not even VPNs in the first place. They merely use the same technology to provide a private tunnel to the public Internet (and use the name in marketing material because by now people are familiar with it).

What they are not is general purpose private networks.

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by nickysielicki »

mnkmnk wrote: post #122
nickysielicki wrote: post #111

Tailscale has a fantastic product, I’ve been extremely happy from day one. If you’re waiting for a weekend to have a few hours to try out Tailscale, don’t, it takes 15 minutes to get every device you own up and running and talking. This is the lowest friction personal VPN to ever exist, and once you see how easy it is for your own devices, you’ll wish you had it at work. The biggest risk that this company has is that…

Cloudflare already has a competing product https://www.cloudflare.com/en-in/lp/ppc/cloudflare-for-teams...

It’s not really a competing product until they relaunch it with a heavy consumer focus and with some of the properties that Tailscale has, ie: avoiding going through the cloudflare CDN. But more to my point, cloudflare is definitely in a position to outcompete Tailscale, it’s just a couple tweaks and a marketing shift.

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by aftbit »

arsome wrote: post #124

I was going to try TailScale but then it seemed the only option to do so as an individual was to login with a 3rd party cloud provider, which I in no way want tied into my networks. I gave up and just setup wireguard directly instead, I don't trust Tailscale either if that's their attitude towards privacy, it's permanently marred my vision of their product.

Same, I abandoned Tailscale sign up for this reason as well. Perhaps consider https://github.com/juanfont/headscale ?

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by JeremyNT »

arsome wrote: post #124

I was going to try TailScale but then it seemed the only option to do so as an individual was to login with a 3rd party cloud provider, which I in no way want tied into my networks. I gave up and just setup wireguard directly instead, I don't trust Tailscale either if that's their attitude towards privacy, it's permanently marred my vision of their product.

Indeed, this is why I won't use it either. I settled on Slack's Nebula [0] instead of wireguard because it handles direct p2p communication between nodes automatically.

There also exists an open source implementation of the tailscale control server [1] that you could self host.

[0] https://github.com/slackhq/nebula

[1] https://github.com/juanfont/headscale

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by mmcclure »

throwaway894345 wrote: post #73
alberth wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I really like the direction [1Password] is heading I thought customers were complainingly loudly against their new direction of making 1Password an Electron app. Is that not the case? Note: I'm not a 1Password customer.

I heard some people complaining a bit for a moment when they made the transition, but that happens anytime anyone changes anything and doubly so when that change is Electron. But that faded quickly.

I...don't think it's faded. I could totally be wrong here, but I don't think they'd actually made a transition yet; the complaining you're talking about was over the 1Password 8 beta. That actually just went GA this week, and people were still upset.

I get why they're doing it (or, at least, think I do), and I'm not angry enough to go get angry on Twitter, but I am going to avoid the upgrade for as long as I can. That's kind of a bummer to get there with a product you've historically really liked.

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by gzer0 »

siavosh wrote: post #130
nickysielicki wrote: post #111

Tailscale has a fantastic product, I’ve been extremely happy from day one. If you’re waiting for a weekend to have a few hours to try out Tailscale, don’t, it takes 15 minutes to get every device you own up and running and talking. This is the lowest friction personal VPN to ever exist, and once you see how easy it is for your own devices, you’ll wish you had it at work. The biggest risk that this company has is that…

I’m pretty ignorant on this topic, but what are the benefits of having a personal VPN?

I am able to route traffic on my mobile device through my home network via the use of their "exit node" option. It allows one of my home devices to act as an exit node for my entire personal tailscale network.

This serves multiple benefits: the main one being that I receive pi-hole filtered ad-free traffic on my mobile device via a Wireguard VPN with my home IP 24/7/365

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by zinekeller »

throw0101a wrote: post #106
Spivak wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, no one is going to allow unsolicited inbound connections even without NAT so you still have to have something to hook up the two ends in a P2P setting.

> Yeah, no one is going to allow unsolicited inbound connections even without NAT so you still have to have something to hook up the two ends in a P2P setting. Sure they are. All home routers that I'm aware of allow for port forwarding so folks can self-host a service: perhaps a game server (e.g., Minecraft), web, e-mail, etc. It's just going forward you can set up a separate subnet to put your gear in (especially if…

... if your definition of "home routers" excludes ISP-provided ones, then I'll agree. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that either you are on an ISP that actually cared and found a good supplier or didn't check out what are the capabilities of ISP-provided routers.

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by ramraj07 »

pilif wrote: post #9

With such a huge investment comes the obligation to eventually pay it back. Is this another one of my favourite tools going the way of Dropbox, 1Password and all other companies that were formed around what should be a platform feature, which took on way too large investment sums and were eventually forced to become the everything, losing sight of their core values? I sincerely hope not, but there's so much bad prece…

Dropbox has been fine ish? Like not stellar but it’s still something I use as one of my core tools and pay for.

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by tepitoperrito »

nickysielicki wrote: post #111

Tailscale has a fantastic product, I’ve been extremely happy from day one. If you’re waiting for a weekend to have a few hours to try out Tailscale, don’t, it takes 15 minutes to get every device you own up and running and talking. This is the lowest friction personal VPN to ever exist, and once you see how easy it is for your own devices, you’ll wish you had it at work. The biggest risk that this company has is that…

Like a hybrid NNCP-GO and nebula sdn. Neat!
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