Imagine having something like this for Google's and YouTube's algorithms; $100bn+ SEO industry would go bankrupt or at least they would pivot to some sort of advising but there wouldn't be the mayhem that we have today.
twitter/the-algorithm
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#132I've worked on very large scale recommendation systems at a FAANG. If Twitter's system resembles anything like ours, the concept of publishing or open sourcing "the algorithm" doesn't make sense. Even if we were to open source all associated code and publish all related documents it would be very difficult to make sense of the entire system. That is precisely why companies such as Twitter A/B test the hell out of eve…
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#133I've worked on very large scale recommendation systems at a FAANG. If Twitter's system resembles anything like ours, the concept of publishing or open sourcing "the algorithm" doesn't make sense. Even if we were to open source all associated code and publish all related documents it would be very difficult to make sense of the entire system. That is precisely why companies such as Twitter A/B test the hell out of eve…
In fact, a lot of people here really think what people are talking about is the equivalent of what is handled in a subroutine.
No, what people are talking about when they talk about "the algorithm" is anything affecting the result set they're reading. Concepts like eventual consistency and edge computing are... well... a part of a model which laypeople, and even reasonably technical people call an "algorithm."
Being pedantic about whether or not this happens in an SQL query, or across multiple codebases, or by region, doesn't escape the question.
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#134I don't understand the concept of open-sourcing "the algorithm". First of all, "the algorithm" is probably hundreds of thousands of lines of code, including all the tedious boilerplate like cache policies and multi-AZ logic. And second of all, doesn't the algorithm include machine learning components, which are trained on terabytes of data? That data will likely be impossible to open source. And open sourcing the neu…
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#135Is this supposed to be a joke? It's clearly an empty repo. Either this is a mistake, or this is a really, really misguided attempt at a joke from Twitter.
https://twitter.com/willnorris/status/1518694675909013504
Which seems like a promise they intend to actually open source something there.
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#136Many people have commented that it is empty. However what they do not realize is that there has never actually been an algorithm and that is why it is empty.
Twitter is mostly an infrastructure operation imho, someone school me. It’s a scale-based problem space, how do you get all these tweets out in real time at minimum, and at best, how do you do some level of topic bucketing on top of it.
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Yes, irrelevant, and the code somewhere is readable. Take an example like gravity: is there an algorithm for how gravity acts even though it varies per each molecule based on a kajillion other molecules? Of course there is.
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Systems comprised of (or generated by) comprehensible parts can be comprehended, we just often opt not to put in that work. There's a reason model interpretability is such a significant and increasingly-demanded area of expertise.
Re: twitter/the-algorithm
#138Many people have commented that it is empty. However what they do not realize is that there has never actually been an algorithm and that is why it is empty.
It's an interchangeable function, it would only be publicized if it's clear to leadership that it wouldn't affect their revenue if people started trying to game towards the published algorithm.
Re: twitter/the-algorithm
#139I've worked on very large scale recommendation systems at a FAANG. If Twitter's system resembles anything like ours, the concept of publishing or open sourcing "the algorithm" doesn't make sense. Even if we were to open source all associated code and publish all related documents it would be very difficult to make sense of the entire system. That is precisely why companies such as Twitter A/B test the hell out of eve…
Re: twitter/the-algorithm
#140I've worked on very large scale recommendation systems at a FAANG. If Twitter's system resembles anything like ours, the concept of publishing or open sourcing "the algorithm" doesn't make sense. Even if we were to open source all associated code and publish all related documents it would be very difficult to make sense of the entire system. That is precisely why companies such as Twitter A/B test the hell out of eve…
Of course it doesn't make sense. I think it's just a dog whistle to the people who believe google have a guy in a room somewhere turning the "conservative search results" lever down a notch during elections.