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TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

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Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

#131

I absolutely love their design language. I'll never have a need to own any of their products but I wish I could buy the gadgets I do need/want with this kind of design/style.

Reminds me of the nicer things that IKEA makes. Its pleasant and calming. Those Swedish people know what they are doing. :)

Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

#132
God this thing is gonna look and work so much worse with 10 cables hanging out of it. Probably isn't even heavy enough to stay in one place against all of that mess, but yeah there's about a million times I can recall where having such a thing in the bag would have saved someone's bacon.

I do also expect to see plenty of hipsters unnecessarily self-flagellating themselves with it, per TE tradition.

Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

#133

Once, just once, I would like to see someone say “why is this so expensive, it’s just […]” and then build one themselves, and bring it to market, for that lower cost. Go ahead, just try.

What all the people disagreeing with you are ignoring is the work and skill that goes into the product design. It takes a lot of iteration, which means lots of prototypes, which means lots of time and money spent just developing the product. This means iteration on the electronics, the UI, the case, etc etc. Anyone could whip together something that's bigger, uglier, and has a worse user interface, all for less money, but to make something equivalent to what TE makes is a what takes all the time/money/effort/skill.

Also most of the disagreers are also ignoring the "bring it to market" step. Even if you built something of equivalent product design as TE, building one for yourself is vastly different than doing a product run where you expect each product to be the same. PCB design and manufacturing is relatively easy and inexpensive, but all the plastic/rubber forming/molding is much trickier and significantly expensive. Getting past the manufacturing aspect, there's the whole marketing, sales, and distribution aspect, which aren't anything to be sneezed at either. Seriously a lot of work goes into bringing a product to market that DIYers building single devices or very tiny runs of devices don't even consider. While TE might not be doing Behringer-level runs of products, their runs are definitely bigger than a lone DIYer could ever handle by themselves.

(Note: This isn't to say that TE's products are necessarily better for everyone than something they could make themselves (or buy for less from a different company), of course. After all, the world's musicians got by just fine before this mixer was released. I just wanted to chime in and explain some of reasons why TE's stuff costs more than what you might think you could make yourself.)

Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

#134
Price aside, what is the use case for this? Bands or electronic live sets will already be bringing a bunch of gear (with 1/4" connections, almost universally) to a show. The size of their 6 channel mixer will not really come into play when you consider guitars, amps, synths, etc.

So, who is this for? People using iPads and iPhones that need the smallest possible mixer? The audio interface aspect is available in many other mixers already. So, that's not a unique feature.

Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

#135
post #120

can someone explain to me why their gear is so expensive? i have a lot of synths and have been collecting them for a long time, and I have no idea why the OP1 should cost 1000 dollars. it really just seems like a toy, do professionals actually use them?

You have to pick a price for high end low volume products and that price often ends up containing a whole lot of development and overhead costs. You can cut corners with development and materials and lose the high end to try for volume, you can try to get your thing very popular, or you can just stick to high prices. High prices tends to get you a better customer base and a sense of exclusivity which drives sales.

Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

#136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right at the very beginning: > ultra-portable pro-mixer and audio interface. TX–6 is our ultra-portable, battery-powered mixer and multi-channel audio interface. comparable to larger units, but with even more tech packed into one sturdy little machine. I’d say that’s pretty damn clear what it is and that it’s “ultra portable.” What were you expecting them to add?

Lots of people don’t know what a mixer or audio interface is.

And those people definitely aren't in the market for a $1200 audio interface. If you don't own several pieces of gear already, this device has literally no use. If you do own several pieces of gear and want to record and mix them simultaneously, a $1200 interface is not going to be the first one you purchase.

Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

#137

I absolutely love their design language. I'll never have a need to own any of their products but I wish I could buy the gadgets I do need/want with this kind of design/style.

There was a collaboration with IKEA, where teenage engineering designed the bluetooth loudspeakers. I have the big ones (10x20cm) and they are alright for a small room or to take with you to the garden. Nice but nothing special. The tiny ones for 19€ were really something - nice design, good sound for the size and price, and really, having a rotating knob on such a small stylish thing feels just great.

Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

#138

For everyone drooling over the design of this, here’s a fun little form-over-function tidbit from the fine print: > high quality, slimline cables custom-made for TX–6. the narrow profile allows you to use all 6 channels at once and makes for an easy pack down. Sounds like the input jacks are so close together not every 3.5mm audio cable will work with it. Like a phone without a headphone jack - bring a special adapto…

Taking a look at a pic of the back the jacks look to be about 3mm apart, which seems fine for most 3.5mm straight jack cables. What I'm betting is that most people don't have 6 3.5mm to 3.5mm cables, given that most boards and interfaces take 1/4"

3mm of space only leaves room for 1.5mm of extra radius per cable. I just eyeballed my cable drawer and I only saw one kind that might fit next to each other with that little clearance. It’s gonna be a pain… not a huge pain, but a pain nonetheless. idk why they couldn’t just add a little extra width and avoid the pain with most cables. Especially since what you’ll need most of the time isn’t going to be the 1/8” to 1/8” cables they’re going to give you - but 1/4” to 1/8” cables - since most instruments have 1/4” outputs

Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

#140
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's almost disgustingly expensive for what it is.

The way people are going on about the price I was expecting it to be a lot higher. It's about the price of a video card.

Wouldn't you want to compare it to the prices of other mixers, not video cards?
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