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Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Post by icpmoles »

moistly wrote: post #122
lizardactivist wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

99% of which most likely don't even own one, and also partake in the other peculiar groups spreading the notion that dirty, foreign brands are dangerous and unreliable.

I own Samsung kitchen appliances. I will never make that mistake again. Fridge: the coils in the fridge compartment freeze up, which is expected because, hey, thermodynamic laws. Hence the heater coil to melt the ice. Which would be fine, except that the little metal tab that is supposed to conduct heat into the drainpipe is too short, so the ice doesn’t melt, thus leaving the drain all plugged up, causing the ice wa…

I had the same problem with my Samsung fridge and while trying to fix it I stumbled upon the world of third party "samsung defroster clip" that you can find on online stores. Which suggests that the problem is so widespread to spin up a whole new industry for a 5 bucks piece of metal.

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Post by ornornor »

throwaway201025 wrote: post #129

As a Samsung employee, I've been continuously being disappointed by the company culture. Recently, the company introduced a new policy that prohibits phone usage while walking inside the company building, due to "safety concerns". Samsung employed ~20 safety guards to supervise and monitor phone usage throughout the campus and if you're caught by them, you will be warned. If you are caughted twice, your team lead wil…

I’ve worked at a company Samsung ended up buying. Exactly as you describe: humiliating, alienating, and infantilizing. Never ever again. And I won’t buy Samsung anything if I can help it because I saw how the software is made… it’s appalling in quality. No thanks.

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Post by danieldisu »

ornornor wrote: post #132
throwaway201025 wrote: post #129

As a Samsung employee, I've been continuously being disappointed by the company culture. Recently, the company introduced a new policy that prohibits phone usage while walking inside the company building, due to "safety concerns". Samsung employed ~20 safety guards to supervise and monitor phone usage throughout the campus and if you're caught by them, you will be warned. If you are caughted twice, your team lead wil…

I’ve worked at a company Samsung ended up buying. Exactly as you describe: humiliating, alienating, and infantilizing. Never ever again. And I won’t buy Samsung anything if I can help it because I saw how the software is made… it’s appalling in quality. No thanks.

What makes you think that it is any different elsewhere?

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Post by inapis »

wtallis wrote: post #126
e2e8 wrote: post #88

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Several (most?) brands do this. Do you know of a brand that definitely does not?

It's an almost universal practice now for consumer SSDs. Intel's consumer SSD product line was the last one where I was pretty sure they weren't doing this. Companies want to build product identities that can last for more than a year, but also want to be able to react to changes in the supply chain. Fixed BOM guarantees really aren't viable in this product segment, but you can often get such assurances in the enterp…

Not really true. ADATA pretty much demonstrated that you could get away with swapping the controller at least 3 times and slowly shaving off performance so that people won't notice until they actually did. And the performance was down by 25%-40% in the third swap. This sets a precedent and sooner or later other manufacturers will follow.

My pet peeve with the whole debacle is that words and promises no longer matter especially when marketing ends up using words like "upto."

Give me a minimum, maximum and specs written in stone and I won't care if you change out components. As it is now, the entire thing has become a game of whack-a-mole, SSD reviews are loosing their relevance and given enough time (+current trajectory) we could easily end up in SSD market which is more like fast fashion than anything else.

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Post by zinekeller »

xattt wrote: post #130
throwaway201025 wrote: post #129

As a Samsung employee, I've been continuously being disappointed by the company culture. Recently, the company introduced a new policy that prohibits phone usage while walking inside the company building, due to "safety concerns". Samsung employed ~20 safety guards to supervise and monitor phone usage throughout the campus and if you're caught by them, you will be warned. If you are caughted twice, your team lead wil…

> … submit a written apology. What the hell kind of mentality is this? I’ve been in a workplace that cracked down on phone use. Everyone was pissed. I considered carrying a small block of wood painted black in act of subversion.

> What the hell kind of mentality is this?

sighs Traditional Asian mentality. I, and definitely many others, hate it, but it's definitely not just Samsung.

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Post by pletnes »

danieldisu wrote: post #133
ornornor wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve worked at a company Samsung ended up buying. Exactly as you describe: humiliating, alienating, and infantilizing. Never ever again. And I won’t buy Samsung anything if I can help it because I saw how the software is made… it’s appalling in quality. No thanks.

What makes you think that it is any different elsewhere?

Using it? Samsung software (see e.g smart TV) is incredibly unreliable.

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Post by ornornor »

danieldisu wrote: post #133
ornornor wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve worked at a company Samsung ended up buying. Exactly as you describe: humiliating, alienating, and infantilizing. Never ever again. And I won’t buy Samsung anything if I can help it because I saw how the software is made… it’s appalling in quality. No thanks.

What makes you think that it is any different elsewhere?

I've worked elsewhere. Samsung is in the bottom tier for every dimension that matters to quality (of life and of products).

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Post by philjohn »

throwaway9870 wrote: post #68
chevman wrote: post #5

There is a Facebook group with 100k+ members dedicated solely to the poor engineering, design, and fabrication of their refrigerators - [SAMSUNG REFRIGERATOR RECALL U.S.A. NOW] - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1520337151601316/

I bought a Samsung Frame TV for my parents for a Christmas present. Dear lord what a mistake. So much software shit on that TV. After two hours of playing with it and Googling it, I still can't figure out how TO TURN IT OFF. WTF. Their customer support is worthless. I would really think twice before I bought another Samsung consumer product.

Hopefully you'll see this, my daughter has a frame TV.

You need to keep your finger pressing the off button on the remote until the whole thing turns off.

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Post by philjohn »

mwint wrote: post #39
rootusrootus wrote: post #36

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I have a Samsung fridge. It singlehandedly convinced me never to buy another Samsung appliance. The reputation is legit.

What kind of issues are you seeing? Naively, a fridge seems like such a simple device that I'm curious how they screwed it up so badly that it's developed an anti-following.

I got rid of a Samsung fridge freezer recently because the front door rusts. The integrated water/ice dispenser sits atop a piece of door metal folded over, and the edge must not be protected as any spills not IMMEDIATELY cleaned up caused creeping rust.

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Post by philjohn »

lizardactivist wrote: post #27

Disasters in foundry, LSI, and DRAM? Is the writer sponsored by the U.S. chip manufacturing sector or other pro-American interests? What a weird hit-piece filled with assertions that could never be reliably backed up by other than Samsung themselves conducting a massive internal investigation.

A good example is the Ampere generation of GPU's.

The data centre parts were fabbed on TSMC 7, the consumer on Samsung 8

The consumer parts hit their performance envelope but use about 30% more energy than the data center parts, for the same performance envelope.

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