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5-min breathing workout lowers blood pressure as much as exercise, drugs (2021)

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Re: 5-min breathing workout lowers blood pressure as much as exercise, drugs (2021)

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Post by throwaway_1928 »

brigandish wrote: post #125
himyogi wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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It doesn't matter one iota if someone claims it as their own, what matters is the benefit it brings. Do you think Patanjali (or whomever) would be protective of their techniques and trademark it, patent it, and extract wealth for it? If they don't care then neither should anyone else, and perhaps this will help the techniques spread further, which I'm sure Patanjali et al again, would not be against.

It absolutely matters.

If Jeff Bezos says he has invented a new operating system and upon a little digging it is discovered that he just tweaked and renamed Linux, then he should and will be called out, and it will hurt his reputation.

The problem is not with using knowledge to your benefit, that is why it is there. The problem is with plagiarism, misrepresentation and intellectual dishonesty.

Re: 5-min breathing workout lowers blood pressure as much as exercise, drugs (2021)

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Post by anko »

mysterypie wrote: post #106

> not necessarily meant to replace exercise I'm hoping someone can answer a question to which I've never heard a really satisfactory answer: Why does human health benefit from exercise whereas any kind of simple machine wears out with exercise? For example, doing a hundred stretches per day improves my health whereas stretching an elastic band 100 times per day will cause it to lose elasticity and soon destroy it. So…

life eg. cellular growth

Re: 5-min breathing workout lowers blood pressure as much as exercise, drugs (2021)

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Post by WaxedChewbacca »

rajup wrote: post #128
brigandish wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't matter one iota if someone claims it as their own, what matters is the benefit it brings. Do you think Patanjali (or whomever) would be protective of their techniques and trademark it, patent it, and extract wealth for it? If they don't care then neither should anyone else, and perhaps this will help the techniques spread further, which I'm sure Patanjali et al again, would not be against.

Meh. It's cultural appropriation which a sufficient number of people do care about, whether or not you like it.

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Re: 5-min breathing workout lowers blood pressure as much as exercise, drugs (2021)

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Post by lenkite »

brigandish wrote: post #130
rajup wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meh. It's cultural appropriation which a sufficient number of people do care about, whether or not you like it.

From the first definition I found: > Cultural appropriation refers to the use of objects or elements of a non-dominant culture in a way that reinforces stereotypes or contributes to oppression and doesn't respect their original meaning or give credit to their source. It also includes the unauthorized use of parts of their culture (their dress, dance, etc.) without permission. I await Patanjali to serve papers that us…

It's not really cultural appropriation. It's simply false appropriation. Claiming another's works as your own fancy innovation. Claiming another's achievement as yours with no original attribution.

This gets you banned in academics.

Re: 5-min breathing workout lowers blood pressure as much as exercise, drugs (2021)

#135

Post by tsol »

himyogi wrote: post #113
thenerdhead wrote: post #73

After reading Wim Hof and James Nestor a couple years ago during the pandemic, I used their techniques in full while battling long Covid. I had a blood pressure monitor and pulse oximeter on my bedside table that I would experiment with doing these various techniques and seeing my heart rate go down, my blood pressure go down, my anxiety would disappear, lung/chest inflammation would settle, and even oxygen levels in…

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I've seen comparisons to traditional breathing practices like tummo and pranayama, but never any real proof of a connection. In fact from what I can see they differ a bit even if they get similar end results.

Re: 5-min breathing workout lowers blood pressure as much as exercise, drugs (2021)

#136

Post by rajup »

brigandish wrote: post #130
rajup wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meh. It's cultural appropriation which a sufficient number of people do care about, whether or not you like it.

From the first definition I found: > Cultural appropriation refers to the use of objects or elements of a non-dominant culture in a way that reinforces stereotypes or contributes to oppression and doesn't respect their original meaning or give credit to their source. It also includes the unauthorized use of parts of their culture (their dress, dance, etc.) without permission. I await Patanjali to serve papers that us…

“doesn't respect their original meaning or give credit to their source.”

See I can pick parts of a random definition off google the same way you do.

Have you heard of “beer yoga”? Or “goat yoga”? It’s the very definition of disrespectful of the original meaning etc. I’m guessing not, but feel free to be entitled to your opinion, it’s a free country after all

Re: 5-min breathing workout lowers blood pressure as much as exercise, drugs (2021)

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Post by tsol »

mysterypie wrote: post #106

> not necessarily meant to replace exercise I'm hoping someone can answer a question to which I've never heard a really satisfactory answer: Why does human health benefit from exercise whereas any kind of simple machine wears out with exercise? For example, doing a hundred stretches per day improves my health whereas stretching an elastic band 100 times per day will cause it to lose elasticity and soon destroy it. So…

When recovering after exercise, the body does something called overcompensating. It doesn't just repair the damage done but actually strengthens the area. Muscles undergo hypertrophy and bone becomes more dense. So when you challenge the body physically a moderate amount, something called functional overreaching, your body responds by actually strengthening itself. Obviously inanimate objects don't have this system so they simply wear out over time

Re: 5-min breathing workout lowers blood pressure as much as exercise, drugs (2021)

#138

Post by brigandish »

throwaway_1928 wrote: post #131
brigandish wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't matter one iota if someone claims it as their own, what matters is the benefit it brings. Do you think Patanjali (or whomever) would be protective of their techniques and trademark it, patent it, and extract wealth for it? If they don't care then neither should anyone else, and perhaps this will help the techniques spread further, which I'm sure Patanjali et al again, would not be against.

It absolutely matters. If Jeff Bezos says he has invented a new operating system and upon a little digging it is discovered that he just tweaked and renamed Linux, then he should and will be called out, and it will hurt his reputation. The problem is not with using knowledge to your benefit, that is why it is there. The problem is with plagiarism, misrepresentation and intellectual dishonesty.

Linux has a licence and relies on copyright law. If yogic breathing techniques did have a licence, the best you could hope for would be an MIT/BSD licence. I don't see how that advances your view.

Re: 5-min breathing workout lowers blood pressure as much as exercise, drugs (2021)

#139

Post by throwaway_1928 »

tsol wrote: post #135
himyogi wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quoted post unavailable.

I've seen comparisons to traditional breathing practices like tummo and pranayama, but never any real proof of a connection. In fact from what I can see they differ a bit even if they get similar end results.

Tummo is closer to 'Kundalini' [1] than it is to Pranayama. Pranayama can be practiced safely with a little intro, but the others I believe require serious guidance.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini

Re: 5-min breathing workout lowers blood pressure as much as exercise, drugs (2021)

#140

Post by isoprophlex »

himyogi wrote: post #113
thenerdhead wrote: post #73

After reading Wim Hof and James Nestor a couple years ago during the pandemic, I used their techniques in full while battling long Covid. I had a blood pressure monitor and pulse oximeter on my bedside table that I would experiment with doing these various techniques and seeing my heart rate go down, my blood pressure go down, my anxiety would disappear, lung/chest inflammation would settle, and even oxygen levels in…

Quoted post unavailable.

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