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The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

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Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#131
Walled gardens have proven over and over again that the only model capable of respecting users is communication via an open protocol.

If you can't take your entire profile and move it to a raspherry pi in your living room on a forked server via a forked client (possibly losing your handle) and continue communicating with your social network then this is inevitable.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#132

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The Twitter UI is a mess. It’s infuriating me to even try to explain the problem to someone who doesn’t see it. For example, can you explain to me - without going to try it out first - where exactly to tap (on a phone) to view the comments on a picture post in your home feed?

I do find this annoying now that I recall, but it's the same way to go to a thread here, the timestamp.

This is only in some specific case too - now that I look again, it's simply tapping the post in most all cases. The annoyance I remembered was that tapping the comments icon with the number by it just opens a view to add a comment, not see them.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#133

"Not horribly confusing and overwhelming for people that don’t use it regularly like Reddit, be it the old or the bad design." My first thought was that the unrepentant bizarreness of Twitter's layout was going to be the "wall" in this case. But the idea that Reddit - a mild variation on the timeless forum format - is somehow more confusing than Twitter? No.

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Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#134

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I spend a lot of time hiding whole comment subtrees when browsing Reddit threads, especially on mobile. I'd do that on HN too except HN's UI is completely mobile-hostile with how tiny its buttons are. I don't fault Twitter for picking the opposite default. In small discussions where most people are interested in every detail being followed up on, HN and Reddit's style is nicer. In popular discussions where every indi…

Some reddit clients have a "next top-level comment" floating button. Apollo does at least, and I thought the official client did too.

Hacker News has these as parent/prev/next buttons.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#135
post #91

It's really funny how Twitter manages to somehow do both these things at the same time: 1. Promise everyone to decentralize itself, aka the "bluesky" project. Except it's been a thing for ~2 years and exactly zero meaningful progress has been made. Related: didn't Jack say they wanted to open up the API again? 2. Become ever more manipulative and get in my way more and more with its engagement growth bullshit.

The did open up the API again, or rather are in the process of doing so. Look at the new essential access tier and v2 endpoints. Its early but they are launching more and more.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#137

Twitter baffles me. I don't understand why anyone uses it since its UI (at least for readers) is so terrible. People split long posts into dozens of tweets because of the 288 char limit, or else post images of printed pages, instead of using a blogging platform. You get a megabyte of JS bloat along with your 288 character tweet. I joke that the main purpose of 5G mobile is so they can increase the bloat to 10MB inste…

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Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#138
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You've always had to login to post, so I don't see how twitters increasing push to force logins would impact a preexisting spam problem.

Scraping for one.

Preventing scraping is kind of the point of "Twitter is increasing the height of the walls around its garden".

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

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Meanwhile Twitter just straight-up put up a loginwall. Whenever I scroll down more than a few tweets, I get an undismissable popup prompting me to login.

Amusingly opening a private window avoids that. I speculate they left that loophole so that people who get into slapfights and block each other can still view each others' tweets.

Opening a private window clears cookies, which typically resets these kinds of things.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#140
> My other accounts don't have it yet, so I wasn't able to confirm if it identifies the account.

It's an encrypted session, to identify your account to Twitter. It's encrypted to prevent an outside party from figuring out which user shared the link, but if you share multiple links from the same session and someone knows you were the source of one of them, they'd be able to link the other ones to you as well.

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