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Re: Nvidia Grace CPU

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What are people's experience of developing with NVIDIA? I know what Linus thinks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYWzMvlj2RQ

I had a laptop with NVIDIA GPU that crashed Xorg and had to be rebooted whenever Firefox opened WebGL. Just to complement the positive sibling comments :-)

Are you using nvidia's driver or nouveau?

Re: Nvidia Grace CPU

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1030 has been dethroned a while ago. Apple G13 delivers 260GFLOPS/W in a general-purpose GPU. I mean, their phone has more GPU FLOPS than a 1030.

Nope, 1030 has 37 Gflops/W... G13 786/20W = 40... and that's 14nm vs 5nm... still I'm pretty sure there are things the 1030 can do that the A13 will struggle with. Game Over!

Your numbers are completely wrong. The claim of 2.6 Tflops for the M1 was independently verified.

https://www.realworldtech.com/forum/?threadid=197759&curpost...

Re: Nvidia Grace CPU

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Intel produced good, as in "cheap and always working", integrated GPUs. For great many tasks, they are adequate. I'm not a gamer, and if I needed to run some ML stuff, my laptop's potential discrete GPU won't be much help anyway.

While I view my Intel iGPU as a backup, I don't have any negative impressions about its performance like many gamers do. I have the 11900K which has an iGPU capable of 720P gaming. Which is quite remarkable to be honest considering it's integrated into my CPU. Cheap and "just works" is exactly how I view it, but they're getting better in the last 2 generations. I can't find a new dGPU at MSRP so I'm going to see if t…

GPU shortages are nearing an end and with next generation products from Nvidia, AMD and Intel on deck, well probably be in a really good spot for GPU consumers come q4 2022.

Re: Nvidia Grace CPU

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Not much of a shortage. I just checked and they are all available for pickup right now at my local small city store. Compared to other products they are still extremely available.

Interesting, I see nothing available from store.apple.com until 6 April earliest, and 29 April for m1 max and even later depending on options.

That's pretty common I think. The retailers get their orders in and planned well before consumers can.

In some cases you're finding far flung regions relative to the source having better availability, because they were allocated a percentage of the original supply but are also too far away for scalpers to be interested, so they just haven't gone through it as fast. Australia hasn't had too many troubles with some items that are pretty hard to get elsewhere for example. Getting a 3080 in NYC is probably a real challenge, but I can walk to my local parts store and pick one up no dramas.

Re: Nvidia Grace CPU

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Maybe it's just me, but it's just cool to see the CPU market competitive again for the first time since the late 90s.

I wonder why Intel never had a really good go at GPU's? It seems strange, given the demand.

The space has two competitors, but NVidia makes most of the GPUs and most of the money. If there's barely room for a second player, there's no room for a third. That being said, they are releasing a GPU soon so we'll see how that goes. Unless the market continues to be insane I'm going to guess it won't go over very well.

Re: Nvidia Grace CPU

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What are people's experience of developing with NVIDIA? I know what Linus thinks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYWzMvlj2RQ

I had an Ubuntu 18.04 install that "randomly" started dying (freezing) with my GTX1080 at some point. Pinpointed it to the combination of that GPU + Linux. I didn't want to bother with reconfiguring my WC loop / buying an expensive GPU, so I just gave up and switched to a perfectly stable Windows + WSL.

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What? They are sold out, not "can't be purchased".

What's the difference? If they are perpetually sold out, then they cannot be purchased.

i guess you dont' know the world of shoes and hypebeast. The primary "value" of the industry is scarcity alone. The sneaker market side of it is worth $100bil alone.

Re: Nvidia Grace CPU

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This leads me to wonder about the microprocessor shortage. So many computing devices such as Nvidia Jetson and Raspberry Pi are simply not available anywhere. I wonder what's he point of bringing out new products when existing products can't be purchased? Won't the new products also simply not be available?

Nvidia is fabless. THey dont make anything. They are primary R&D. This is the fruit.

Re: Nvidia Grace CPU

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They are trying to establish the new architecture. Also you still need to shell out $2-3k to get something decent and practically start at $1.5k. I wouldn't call that cheap or even cheaper. What is the past difference you see?

> still need to shell out $2-3k to get something decent and practically start at $1.5k They're all using the exact same CPU, in fact you can make the air perform (almost) just as well as the pro/mini by opening it up and adding a thermal pad: https://www.cultofmac.com/759693/thermal-mod-m1-macbook-air/

Current MacBook Pro 14"/16" use the M1 Pro/M1 Max instead of the M1 that the Air and 13" MacBook Pro have, so definitely a different (and later iteration) CPU: https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/
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