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Re: YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

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There's a huge difference: in Bush v. Gore, Gore stepped aside for the good of the country, choosing to respect the institution of the courts even if the decision was dodgy. Trump is willing to burn down the institutions if it gives him an edge. The danger from the Trump narrative is not that die-hards are still grumbling, it's that the candidate doesn't seem to care about anything beyond his own interests.

That’s not how I remember it. Gore whined incessantly about “hanging chads” until he was forced to step aside by the Supreme Court.

These were at least valid evidential concerns, not something completely made up.

Re: YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

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I’m becoming more convinced that the future I’ve been planning simply won’t be possible in the decades to come. The world is scarcely recognizable. And having experienced nothing but peace and prosperity makes me feel woefully unprepared. The WEIRD world is becoming increasingly more authoritarian. I’m already detached from real conflict and scarcity, knowing nothing but peace and prosperity, and the TikTok generatio…

Hard times and war change people. Many changes are negative: poorer, less secure, less trusting, more fearful, devastating losses. But other changes are for the better. And you don't need war to make these changes. If you make them before hard times come, you'll be better prepared for them: becoming more stoic (less emotional, less offended at everything), becoming more serious, more resourceful, more self-reliant, l…

All of the things you wrote as good things are (mostly) good things, glittering generalities that have no bearing on whether hard times are good or bad.

To connect the two, you'd have to complete the scurrilous reference made that we are currently in a time of "weak men". You may or may not be aware that the "Hard times..." meme is widely used among not just stoics, but also fascist groups to suggest that the current generation is soft and weak, and that only by adversity can men become strong again.

One can do almost everything good you listed, and indeed aspire to it, without becoming stoic and emotionless. To have feelings isn't weak.

Re: YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

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post #67

Seems like the underlying problem is that YouTube is 1 generic platform that contains news, entertainment, random home videos, etc. Perhaps the right answer is to “divide” it up and set requirements for each category of video, similar to how “YouTube kids” is a thing now. News and podcasts would go under its own section and have some level of sanity checks while home videos can be as random as they want to be.

I don't think there needs to be division by topic, there just needs to be alternatives. If you divide by topic you still have effective monopolies, just smaller ones.

I think we need to focus on how to make it easier to consume content from multiple platforms together. Small starts are things like web notifications (which are unfortunately abused) so that you can be notified about new videos from an author your just discovered, even if they aren't on your regular platforms. Of course RSS is an awesome version of this but needs some UX built for the average user.

The harder thing is getting curation and recommendation across platforms. But this definitely isn't impossible.

Re: YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

#136

I’m becoming more convinced that the future I’ve been planning simply won’t be possible in the decades to come. The world is scarcely recognizable. And having experienced nothing but peace and prosperity makes me feel woefully unprepared. The WEIRD world is becoming increasingly more authoritarian. I’m already detached from real conflict and scarcity, knowing nothing but peace and prosperity, and the TikTok generatio…

Just wait until GPT3 deep-fake audio. Closely followed by Deep-fake video. And algorithms will amplify this content to the echo chambers that "want" to hear it to increase ad revenue a few percentage points. All this will enter society at a time when trust in institutions is already low; you already hear some people predicting that there may not be an election with uncontested results (in the USA) ever again. If we s…

Hate to say it, but deepfake audio and video are already pretty convincing (though post processing is needed)

Re: YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

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post #83

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The difference is that with Bush you have hanging chads and a court decision that after the votes were counted would have probably come out differently, and a concerted political effort to turn that to their advantage. The republican party just literally spent months on questioning the election in places like Arizona with no evidence of any fraud, and there's plenty of documentation on how (almost always republican)…

Nope. They finished the recounts. Three times. None of them came out in Gore's favor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_United_States_presidentia... Here ya go - seems like that's incorrect.

Re: YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

#138

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Meming about and being afraid of WW3 is critical in containing/deescalating it. WW1 happened partly because nobody was afraid of it happenning.

WWII happened despite people being afraid of it happening. Could you elaborate on your point?

The factors in World War 2 were much different, public sentiment didn’t matter. Nazis would have taken Poland in 1939 and pursue the Soviet Union sooner, it was inevitably a World War. World War 1 was editable.

World War 1 was very much avoidable. Time and time again World War 1 has been called unnecessary because the original dispute that triggered the conflict was limited.

Re: YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

#139
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Hillary has been claiming the 2016 election was stolen by Russia for Trump for six years now, and nobody seems to fret about how she’s undermining democracy. There were even many faithless electors that tried to overturn the results. Much like Trump, she just can’t seem to admit she lost. Both parties need to learn that if you lose it’s because you didn’t get enough votes and to reflect on why that is. Although I’m s…

new math: 2022 - 2016 = 8 years

Re: YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

#140

I’m becoming more convinced that the future I’ve been planning simply won’t be possible in the decades to come. The world is scarcely recognizable. And having experienced nothing but peace and prosperity makes me feel woefully unprepared. The WEIRD world is becoming increasingly more authoritarian. I’m already detached from real conflict and scarcity, knowing nothing but peace and prosperity, and the TikTok generatio…

Is the word "plan" intentional, or a translation for some other concept?
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