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Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

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Sure they can. If they declare war and officially enter the conflict. That wouldn't be a NATO action though, it's a defensive pact. And it won't happen. Although... the last few days have shown extraordinary events that I never expected. The EU approving 500 Million for weapon purchases for Ukraine, countries supplying fighters after two days delay, officiaks saying that their are fine with their citizens volunteerin…

Why they must declare a war, while Russia and Belarus doesn't? Is there a special international law just for NATO?

Yes, there actually is international law. It's not just for NATO, it applies to Russia and Belarus as well.

But Russia is ignoring those laws. What Russia is doing is called "war of aggression": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_aggression

"A war of aggression, sometimes also war of conquest, is a military conflict waged without the justification of self-defense, usually for territorial gain and subjugation."

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

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I am American, moved to Kyiv almost four years ago. My startup engineering team is 100% in Ukraine. As the warning signs mounted I urged my people to consider leaving but no one, myself included, thought it would come to this. Of course no one left.

I finally agreed to take a couple of weeks out of Kyiv to calm my cofounder’s nerves, sure that I’d be back and we’d have a laugh at how it all came to nothing. So I am in Tbilisi and my team are all stuck in Ukraine.

We’re doing all we can to help We can’t get the men out because the Ukrainian borders guards won’t let any men leave, and most of the women won’t leave their husbands behind. A few have joined the territorial defense forces and are defending Kyiv now. Many others are taking shelter in basements while the Russians shell their cities.

Today, 66% of my 45 person team were online and working. It’s astonishing the grit and commitment the Ukrainians are showing. We’re resolved not to abandon them and to do all we can for them but the shitty reality is that’s just not a whole lot right now.

If anyone can fight their way to victory in this war it’s them. I wish the west had done more when there was still time to make a difference, but now it’s up to Ukrainians to save themselves and make the Russian invaders pay for every meter they take.

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

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My entire team of software engineers are Ukranian, residing in Ukraine (I'm not in Ukraine, nor am I Ukrainian). For the past few weeks our "water cooler talk" has been almost exclusively about the rising threat of invasion, if not directly about the ongoing conflict in the SE of Ukraine. A number of the team signed up for the volunteer defence force and have spent countless weekends training with the army. The morni…

I feel the same. What do you say in Slack to the guy who just told you he’s handed over his tasks to a colleague because he’s joining the territorial defenses and has to go and fight? “Good luck”? “Give ‘em hell”? “Слава Украины" is what I settled on but there’s just nothing you can say that conveys the weighty emotions of that kind of goodbye.

The very least that can be done is to not cut them loose because Russian bombardment has decreased productivity.

I’ve left behind a life and all of my possessions in Ukraine but more than that I feel like I’ve let them down since I’m living comfortably in Georgia while they suffer and could possibly die.

I’ll just do what I can to help keep the project going so we can keep supporting them. The cold reality is that a startup isn’t a charity so at some point some hard decisions need to be made, but that point isn’t five days into a war.

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

#134

Is this staged? The pinging account was created seconds before the comment was posted and seconds later the developer replies. The developer who is of course defending against a real life invasion of his home country.

This may make sense if they were replying via e-mail to the issue.

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

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post #88

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Valid point, but the lack of empathy among the people I follow is concerning.

Your feed reflects you. If you find it concerning, then you need to make a change in who you follow. I've seen people complain about YouTube for example - they eventually realize that what YouTube recommends is what they watch. If they want better recommends, they need to watch different things.

I'm not sure how Twitter works, but for YouTube it's not like their recommendation system is a perfect user-friendly algorithm.

While it is your choice what to click, what you end up watching is a result of the interplay between you and what is recommended to you and if the recommendation system was different, both what you click and the resulting feed would be different as well

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

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post #135
post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your feed reflects you. If you find it concerning, then you need to make a change in who you follow. I've seen people complain about YouTube for example - they eventually realize that what YouTube recommends is what they watch. If they want better recommends, they need to watch different things.

I'm not sure how Twitter works, but for YouTube it's not like their recommendation system is a perfect user-friendly algorithm. While it is your choice what to click, what you end up watching is a result of the interplay between you and what is recommended to you and if the recommendation system was different, both what you click and the resulting feed would be different as well

Experimented with this on YouTube. My recommendations are exactly the things that I watched.

In fact I got kind of bored because I wanted something new and different, instead I just get more videos of exactly the same type.

If I stop watching a certain kind of video it eventually stops showing up on the recommendations.

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

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post #21

My entire team of software engineers are Ukranian, residing in Ukraine (I'm not in Ukraine, nor am I Ukrainian). For the past few weeks our "water cooler talk" has been almost exclusively about the rising threat of invasion, if not directly about the ongoing conflict in the SE of Ukraine. A number of the team signed up for the volunteer defence force and have spent countless weekends training with the army. The morni…

I understand. It's unfair and hard. Business.

I have been thinking about business being business for a long time. Let me tell you a vision of a better future. I am not explaining how to get there, just what is in this future.

Business will not have changed a lot. But people! People have a lot better means of living. Most needs are covered. This changes the power relationship between people and business. Business becomes sort of a game. You can lose but it's just a game.

The main rules of this game are:

    1. follow law and mores
    2. be bound by contracts to have earnings and spendings
    3. earnings ≥ spendings
If you violate these rules for too long a time and too heavily, your business will be booted. It's a harsh game.

This rule of business has been in force already thousands of years ago. Barter superfluous stone knives against food, for example.

And today this game can have inhuman consequences as we see here.

Parent's business is trying to work around that they suddenly a team dropped out. Software stopped being delivered. As a consequence they are afraid that earnings can't be realized.

In a strategic game it's clear that something needs to be done or they get booted.

And some people today fail to see this aspect. They complain that business is greedy and inhuman. They ask that companies should be "human".

But it's my conviction that business is a worthwile and important game benefitting the society. As long as business is bound to sensible law like forbidding hurting people (for example by overworking them or exposing them to unhealthy conditions), business should be free to do business.

Therefore we shouldn't change business a lot but give people better means and therefore more power and independence.

If a business fails it's just losing a game round. This can hurt but everybody should be able to get up again and have another chance.

It's just a vision of a better future.

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

#138

Is this staged? The pinging account was created seconds before the comment was posted and seconds later the developer replies. The developer who is of course defending against a real life invasion of his home country.

Nope.

I work with @insky (zhbadya on HN) for 8+ years and I have an account on HN for much more than that. Can confirm - this is real, we're fighting.

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

#139

I am American, moved to Kyiv almost four years ago. My startup engineering team is 100% in Ukraine. As the warning signs mounted I urged my people to consider leaving but no one, myself included, thought it would come to this. Of course no one left. I finally agreed to take a couple of weeks out of Kyiv to calm my cofounder’s nerves, sure that I’d be back and we’d have a laugh at how it all came to nothing. So I am i…

It is also up to Ukrainians to convince some West Europian nations that sometimes good business is not worth it. It is sad that only blood can change their perspective and each drop of it only slightly... As in an American veterans slogan - freedom is not for free... They fight for entire Europe freedom too.

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

#140
post #21

My entire team of software engineers are Ukranian, residing in Ukraine (I'm not in Ukraine, nor am I Ukrainian). For the past few weeks our "water cooler talk" has been almost exclusively about the rising threat of invasion, if not directly about the ongoing conflict in the SE of Ukraine. A number of the team signed up for the volunteer defence force and have spent countless weekends training with the army. The morni…

> My friends. Just so expendable in the eyes of my employer.

This is a cold, hard reality.

Good to be aware of it, and work on accepting it, processing it, rather than avoid the truth.

We are expendable. Each and every one of us.

And that’s ok.

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