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Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by netfortius »

AnonC wrote: post #85
netfortius wrote: post #5

If it's just for custom domain and email, then Infomaniak is yet another choice, on a price to features, unlimited storage (for email) and hosting country (privacy concerns with Apple and US, anyone?!?) ratio solution. I have recently moved my custom domain hosting from a more expensive service, to Infomaniak, and I got the first email address for free (the main from my Google workspace), to which I may add some more…

Seems like the email service is only available if you buy the domain from them or transfer the domain to them. I couldn’t find how one could use an existing domain that one owns without transferring to them.

Incorrect. One FREE address is only available if moving the domain. Paid emails are available no matter where the domain is registered. Read the https://www.infomaniak.com/en/support/faq/admin2

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by netfortius »

rnk wrote: post #16
netfortius wrote: post #5

If it's just for custom domain and email, then Infomaniak is yet another choice, on a price to features, unlimited storage (for email) and hosting country (privacy concerns with Apple and US, anyone?!?) ratio solution. I have recently moved my custom domain hosting from a more expensive service, to Infomaniak, and I got the first email address for free (the main from my Google workspace), to which I may add some more…

I took a glance at their website. Does it do all the things the original article mentioned? Like setup catchall email, route email to specific addresses (like I have 3 people in my family, Jane, Akbar, Jeff, jeff@mydomain.com goes to him, but everyone@mydomain.com goes to all of us, yet parents@mydomain.com goes to just the 2 parents). I want that, plus it's part of the current hodge podge of email verification stand…

Read the https://www.infomaniak.com/en/support/faq/admin2 and contact their support. They are very detailed in responses, to any specific inquiries.

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by Gareth321 »

fauigerzigerk wrote: post #130
Gareth321 wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FYI for anyone seeking to download all their emails (or any other data stored by Google) they now have a handy tool developed at the behest of the EU: Google Takeout: https://takeout.google.com/

Google Takeout predates GDPR by several years. I'm not sure if there was any other legislation in place in 2011 that required Google to provide something like this. My recollection is that it was not directly related to any actual legislation at the time.

That is a good point of correction. It looks like Google's Data Liberation Front was formed (at least in part) in order to abide by government regulations, certifications, and procure more business (https://fcw.com/2010/09/google-apps-government-reach-grows/2...), but not at the behest of the EU. It looks like Gmail was added to Takeout in 2013: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Data_Liberation_Front

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by blitzar »

rekoil wrote: post #118
shaunpud wrote: post #35

I don't know why anyone would use a catch-all these days, unless you want to get inundated with spam.

I've used a catch-all email for about 14 years now, I have no idea what you're talking about as this has literally never been an issue.

22 years and counting. 99.999% of my spam comes to emails in various leaks.

I get possibly a dozen or so emails a year to catch-alls that I dont recognise as having been given out - its incredibly rare that it is every anything other than someone mistyping my name.

I also get a monumental quantity of spam so not exactly a small sample but still just one example.

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by miken123 »

domlaut wrote: post #11
miken123 wrote: post #6

I would say another main issue is that while they ask you to setup DKIM records, they do not actually DKIM-sign your emails. Hence your mails may be more easily flagged as spam. Several people have reported this to Apple, but AFAIK it still hasn’t been fixed.

You're right -- this is something I missed mentioning. As of right now, it's still only the web-based iCloud Mail that makes use of DKIM. Using any other client/app will deliver your emails unsigned. Would you mind if I updated the article crediting you for the DKIM addendum?

I believe the webinterface signs with the icloud.com domain and not your own.

Happy for you to update the article, no need for credits.

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by exikyut »

mortenlarsen wrote: post #56
cube00 wrote: post #37

Catch-all addresses are a must have for me now. I allocate unique addresses to every website as these are more robust then using the + operator because they can't be stripped off. I've already busted one company (I presume selling) my email address to a cloud provider for them to send me marketing material. I emailed their privacy officer and didn't even get a reply, but that's OK, if it continues, one sieve rule and…

I use "-" instead of "+" with a regex: "/^name-.*@mydomain\.tld$/". Then I block them when I get spam after they get compromised. Many spammers already know to remove anything after the +-sign. But I must admit that the biggest benefit of this setup, was listening to my girlfriend on the the phone explaining to someone, at some company, the reason that their name was part of the email-address: "That is because if I g…

One minor niggle: I can definitely agree with calling shenanigans if a company doesn't make it clear they have no plans to sell my email address, but honesty about planning to get hacked - from a "this is what we will do" standpoint, but also from a perspective that doesn't flat-out rule out "that will never happen" - is honestly something I would find very refreshing to hear. A lot of environments prioritize mitigating the hypothetical liability risk associated with those kinds of big words rather than communicating that type of boldness that comes across as reassuringly supportive and resilient.

This being said, I wouldn't have minded being a fly on the wall listening to that conversation :P

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by merlinscholz »

seanp2k2 wrote: post #90
merlinscholz wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or ProtonMail, which is outside of the Five Eyes!

If you're doing anything substantiative enough to warrant investigation by a big government, that won't help much https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-58476983

What are they supposed to do when their own government has a warrant? Ignore it and let the government shut down the whole site? This way they followed it without breaking anyones encryption, no back door, … this is a positive aspect in my view.

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by exikyut »

mortenlarsen wrote: post #63
domlaut wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clever! Are you running your own email server, or is there a provider/relay other than Google that can route based on regexes?

My own server, since 2001. Regex part since about 2003. It has been very effective, and still is. The most effective thing back in the day was blocking based on TCP fingerprint, as "Windows XP" was different from "Windows 2003" IIRC (with OpenBSD PF). After that, greylisting gave me a few SPAM-free years, before it became the norm (OpenBSD spamd). Many OpenBSD users had quite a few SPAM-free years back then.

(Genuinely curious - particularly with M$)

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by can16358p »

saagarjha wrote: post #48

Bad error messages is kind of an institutional problem at Apple. Somehow there’s a push to “simplify” the error process and it invariably means that some part of e pipeline has good error info that is, if you’re lucky, dropped in a log somewhere and just completely swallowed if you’re not. In the UI you’ll just get a generic “something went wrong” or a “translated” error that isn’t bijective at all, or sometimes not…

I get user friendliness for non tech-savvy users, but they should definitely have something like "details" that you can expand for power users, especially somewhere like custom domain management/DNS record checker where there are probably power users using it.

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Post by michaelt »

rekoil wrote: post #118
shaunpud wrote: post #35

I don't know why anyone would use a catch-all these days, unless you want to get inundated with spam.

I've used a catch-all email for about 14 years now, I have no idea what you're talking about as this has literally never been an issue.

Back in the 1990s, a spammer who knew example.com existed would bulk e-mail a dictionary of prefixes - andy@example.com, bob@example.com, claire@example.com etc etc in the hopes that some would get through.

As such, a catch-all e-mail address was a sure way to get hundreds of copies of the same spam e-mail. And since most people who wanted a catch-all address were doing it as part of a strategy to get less spam, that was the opposite of what they were aiming for.

Perhaps spammers have stopped doing that since?

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