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Francis Ford Coppola’s $100M Dollar Bet

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Post by JohnJamesRambo »

scarface74 wrote: post #107
JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #33

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Two thoughts. 1. If we know what a government can do when it’s not on “your side” whichever your side is, then why do most people on HN always want the “government to pass a law to do $x to private businesses” giving the government more power? 2. Exactly what does “being American mean”? I bet you dollars to donuts when you talk to your parents about the good old days, the story is different than talking to my parents…

For me being American means getting away from the culture that caused injustices in the South and moving towards a kinder future for everyone. And then the villain tried to take us back there.

But democracy prevailed and for that I am hopeful.

The point of my comment was that all we had were superhero movies talking about right and wrong but it was so silly and childish and on the surface that it didn't do the real work that great movies do of making people examine what is really good and what is evil.

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Post by dwighttk »

xcambar wrote: post #34
dwighttk wrote: post #3

I watch Groundhog Day every Feb 2nd. Not sure I need another film to watch regularly.

Not sure you need one, but what do you do with those 364 other days then?

Watch movies for the first time, or rewatch whatever suits my fancy. Or don’t watch. :)

Re: Francis Ford Coppola’s $100M Dollar Bet

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Post by scarface74 »

JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #131
scarface74 wrote: post #107

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Two thoughts. 1. If we know what a government can do when it’s not on “your side” whichever your side is, then why do most people on HN always want the “government to pass a law to do $x to private businesses” giving the government more power? 2. Exactly what does “being American mean”? I bet you dollars to donuts when you talk to your parents about the good old days, the story is different than talking to my parents…

For me being American means getting away from the culture that caused injustices in the South and moving towards a kinder future for everyone. And then the villain tried to take us back there. But democracy prevailed and for that I am hopeful. The point of my comment was that all we had were superhero movies talking about right and wrong but it was so silly and childish and on the surface that it didn't do the real w…

You mean the same culture where statistically to this day minorities get harsher sentences for the same crime than non minorities and that the “War on Drugs” became the “War on Black People” and when drugs started affecting rural America it became a “disease” that needs “treatment” and not “caused by moral failings” like it was in the “inner city”. Even the idea that the crack got harsher punishment than the same amount of cocaine is evidence that not much has changed.

It’s not a Republican vs Democratic thing. The Clintons and Biden were big proponents of the “War on Crime” and it was disproportionately aimed at minorities.

I have no idea why criminal justice reform didn’t gain more traction. The mainstream Republicans on the national level supported it as well as Democrats - even up to Trump before.

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Post by rhn_mk1 »

auggierose wrote: post #60
scop wrote: post #11

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I recently watched The Godfather 1 and 2 for the first time as an adult and was floored by the two movies (really a single movie, broken into two parts). A complete tragedy executed to perfection. The full arc of the tragic downfall of a man, like something out of the Greek tragedies or Shakespeare. I then made the horrible mistake of watching Godfather 3, which basically seemed to have 90s romantic comedy vibe with…

We must have seen different movies. Whose downfall?

Michael's. He's a different person by the end of the first movie.

Re: Francis Ford Coppola’s $100M Dollar Bet

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Post by mavhc »

richardfey wrote: post #76
scop wrote: post #11

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I recently watched The Godfather 1 and 2 for the first time as an adult and was floored by the two movies (really a single movie, broken into two parts). A complete tragedy executed to perfection. The full arc of the tragic downfall of a man, like something out of the Greek tragedies or Shakespeare. I then made the horrible mistake of watching Godfather 3, which basically seemed to have 90s romantic comedy vibe with…

> especially in the current era of horrible movies Isn't this always the case? Have we ever had an era when people thought "glad to be in the current era of great movies"?

You remember the recent terrible films and forget the old terrible films.

Also works for TV, music, books, plays.

Imagine all the crap that was on at the same time as Shakespeare that no one remembered 5 years later, let alone 400

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Post by rhn_mk1 »

auggierose wrote: post #137
rhn_mk1 wrote: post #135

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Michael's. He's a different person by the end of the first movie.

He is different, but not worse.

I guess here's where we get into subjective territory :) But I think the moral downfall interpretation is supported by one of the final scenes where he lied to his wife about not having killed his sister's husband.

Re: Francis Ford Coppola’s $100M Dollar Bet

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Post by germinalphrase »

echelon wrote: post #35
germinalphrase wrote: post #30

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I believe it. That’s wonderful. Though I’m teaching now - in a previous life, I was a Local 600 2nd AC. The storytelling industry fascinates me, but I would love to see user generated, interactive fiction become prominent. All the better if talent can be the central stakeholder. Unreal/Epic got a shout out above. Can you point out anyone else who is working seriously in the space? That’s exciting.

> I was a Local 600 2nd AC That's awesome! I know a bunch of IATSE folks and they're all super cool. It's such a unique industry, and the excitement on set is totally palpable. > The storytelling industry fascinates me, but I would love to see user generated, interactive fiction I'm working on exactly this now! Collaborative motion capture and environmental control with audience participation. I haven't launched publ…

I wish you the best of luck, and will try to check in once in a while.

Get some sleep.

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