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Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by zeusk »

ethbr0 wrote: post #65
Egoist wrote: post #51

“The changes will mirror the same requirements Microsoft originally added to Windows 11 Home last year, meaning you won’t be able to avoid Microsoft Accounts by creating a local user account during setup.” If I remember correctly, when you install Win11 Home, it forces you to login with a Microsoft account. But the easy workaround is to unplug the ethernet cable, windows will realize it can’t connect and the local ac…

My last round of Windows 11 installs, I just created a new MS account for the install, created a local admin user, and then deleted the MS account from the machine and built local accounts out normally. I'm sure, somewhere, there's a Microsoft VP whose "New MS accounts" KPI looks great...

Well it's all a part of them trying to turn Windows into iOS like device management system, including the "family" aspect of app store and subscriptions.

When was the last time you used an iOS device without an Apple ID?

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by gruez »

Melatonic wrote: post #28
opencl wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The loophole for years has been not being connected to the internet, they're getting rid of that. Buying LTSC licenses as an individual is not particularly easy or cheap.

Might be a good time to take some affordable evening classes at your local community college wink wink nudge nudge

I don't think microsoft ever gave away LTSC licenses for students. Education/Enterprise maybe, but not LTSC.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by GeoAtreides »

grishka wrote: post #73
fortyseven wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You couldn't be more wrong. I made the leap to Ubuntu 20.04 late last year and haven't regretted it. This after a quarter decade of being a Windows guy. There's a couple rough edges, but overall? I'm home.

I've been using macOS for 10 years. Can't fathom going to anything else at this point. Especially anything that requires as much maintenance and DIY as desktop Linux does. I'm fine with running Linux on my servers though — it's robust, simple and reliable for this purpose. Besides, I simply don't like the approach Linux takes to desktop. The desktop should be part of the system, not a bunch of loose add-on components…

>maintenance and DIY as desktop Linux does

That's what I like about my (l)ubuntu, I literally don't have to do any kind of maintenance or DIY. It just works. And it keeps working even when I don't restart my PC for months.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by JohnTHaller »

nemacol wrote: post #52

Can you use Apple products without an account? If not*, what version of Linux should I get setup with. Casual web development. I mostly use my personal machine for gaming. Edit - Typo

You can't access stuff in the App Store without an Apple account. And there is a chunk of Apple software that's only available in the App Store. On Windows, I can't think of any worthwhile software that's not available outside the Windows App Store.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by polotics »

Never again windows with Microsoft accounts. I have two windows 10 licenses, one home and one pro. I made the mistake of associating the licenses to my Microsoft account and now there is no way to move the pro license from the old PC to the new one. The Microsoft support site is a complete joke of unpaid chatterers that send you on wild goose chase, the web is full of SEO bullshit site that keyword-dance around the issue... Windows 11 for me is Windows Never, and I am well under to way to ensure that the 100 odd laptops at $company run Ubuntu next thank you very much.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by gruez »

Melatonic wrote: post #18

I feel like I see this exact article every year or two and then it always comes out that you can easily get around this with some type of easy loophole. Of course that might still get the majority of people switching to an online account but..... if you are practically giving away an OS for free is that really so bad? Not that I am saying I support this change personally of course - I would much rather have microsoft…

>LTSC 2019 IOT is supported even longer but I have not tested it and it may have additional restrictions that make it not useable as a desktop OS (2032)

>LTSC 2021 is officially supported and updated for 5 years until 2027 (confusing I know)

LTSC 2019 IOT is supported for the same amount of time as LTSC 2019[1]. Maybe you're talking about LTSC 2021 IOT? That's the one that has 10 year support[2].

[1] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-...

[2] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-...

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by gruez »

elorant wrote: post #109

Well I have 3 years before Win10 reaches EOL and then I'm moving on to greener pastures. Linux desktop has matured enough for my needs.

>Well I have 3 years before Win10 reaches EOL

You actually have quite a bit longer than that if you're willing to go with LTSC. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-...

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by newbamboo »

jacquesm wrote: post #117

Ah we never saw that one coming. What really bugs me is why people keep defending these companies: this is straight up abusive, and we - all of us - should not accept these tricks. Getting you an MS account is one small step away from charging you monthly for the privilege of using the computer that you've already paid for.

It’s 2022, accept that everything is now a subscription and learn to eat bugs.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by mark-r »

gilrain wrote: post #77
amanzi wrote: post #62

Using Windows with a Microsoft account introduces all sorts of issues that only power users tend to come across, and power users are who Windows Pro is targeted for. For example, RDP'ing to a Windows Pro computer with a Microsoft account becomes a lot more difficult. Another example is that Windows still needs a local username and password, even if you've logged in with a Microsoft account, and this can get out of sy…

This is how I wound up becoming so annoyed that I finally switched to Linux. It’s been great. I haven’t even missed out on gaming.

I keep hoping Microsoft will go one step too far and everyone will be forced to switch. Hasn't happened yet.
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