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25 Gbit/s internet as a normal customer

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Re: 25 Gbit/s internet as a normal customer

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Post by reincarnate0x14 »

notimetorelax wrote: post #83
zokier wrote: post #70

I got a feeling that any service not sitting behind a major CDN would struggle to feed more than handful of 25Gbit/s clients. That is maybe the biggest reason I feel >1Gbps for consumers at this point is kinda dubious prospect.

You can think of it differently - multiple people in your household can access different services or multiple 4K streams without interfering with each other.

4K streams rarely spike above 50 Mb so that'd be a really big house before you'd notice.

As someone with symmetric 1Gb, it is really nice in that the effective distance from your house to anywhere and anywhere to your house becomes a lot smaller. With Gb+ backing it, cloud storage with a local cache becomes an attractive alternative to ever buying disks again.

Re: 25 Gbit/s internet as a normal customer

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Post by vonseel »

lazide wrote: post #84
Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #53

25 Gbit sounds nice, but even my 1 Gbit line is mostly wasted. I use a Raspberry Pi as my torrent box which seems to cap out at 7 MB/sec write speed. Even Steam tends to only download at 30-50 MB/sec most of the time. People tend to grossly overestimate how much bandwidth they need, especially non-technical people. Even a 100 Mbit connection is more than capable of letting a family of five all stream Netflix at the s…

The limiting factor for me is usually uplink speed, especially when moving media around or dealing with backups. I can easily saturate 1G (up) right now, but I’m stuck with crappy xfinity with max uplink speed of 40Mb(bits)/sec. That’s on their highest plan, in the heart of Silicon Valley.

Yep, uploads to a service like Backblaze are the only way I have saturated 1G lines.

Re: 25 Gbit/s internet as a normal customer

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Post by jrnichols »

Enginerrrd wrote: post #8
joshstrange wrote: post #5

So $843.60/yr ($70.3/mo) + a 1-time $361.54 fee? I'd take that deal in a heartbeat. I pay a little over $100 for 1Gbps symmetrical plus a static IP.

I'd take YOUR deal in a heartbeat. I pay $110/month for 75Mbps down / 10Mbps up and 300GB data. They also constantly harass me with upsells and raise prices 10% per year.

we're seeing AT&T Fiber in this area (Northern California) offering 2000/2000 for that price. goes up to 5000/5000 too.

it's been a surprisingly stable and solid product.

Re: 25 Gbit/s internet as a normal customer

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Post by yuhong »

AnotherGoodName wrote: post #44
jsjohnst wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You also want something better than cat5 for home wiring. For 25Gbps? Or are you meaning for the 1gbps you have? If the former, of course, but otherwise Cat5e can handle 10GbE if you have good connections and the loop length isn’t too long.

Cat5 and cat5e are different though. Cat5 struggles with 1gbps.

The differences are minimal. There is a good article on this topic: https://www.flukenetworks.com/knowledge-base/application-or-...

Re: 25 Gbit/s internet as a normal customer

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Post by samstave »

djdjfhsje33edh wrote: post #123
samstave wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gee... wouldnt it be cool if the USA paid telecoms $400,000,000,000 to build out said infra? Oh wait.. The Book Of Broken Promises: $400 Billion Broadband Scandal And Free The Net https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-book-of-broken-promis_b_5...

Writing out all of the zeros in $400 billion doesn't make your point any more compelling.

Thats because my point is compelling enough

Re: 25 Gbit/s internet as a normal customer

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Post by occamrazor »

Youden wrote: post #23
sschueller wrote: post #20

The reason this is available for this price in every house in the city of Zürich is because of a law that passed requiring every house to have fiber. The infrastructure is operated by the power and phone company and any service provider can use this fiber. I hope the whole of Switzerland will do something similar because there are still a lot of places without good internet and fiber is quite future proof. Home offic…

It's not just the city of Zürich, Adliswil has it too, at the very least. I believe Init7 leases fibre from Swisscom in other locations. My understanding is that federal law requires Swisscom to give access to its infrastructure to other companies for a fair price.

Moreover almost all local power companies (e.g. ewz in Zurich) have laid fiber cables and lease them to ISPs. Most of them don’t even sell internet access directly, therefore they don’t have the same conflict of interest that Swisscom has.

Re: 25 Gbit/s internet as a normal customer

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #53

25 Gbit sounds nice, but even my 1 Gbit line is mostly wasted. I use a Raspberry Pi as my torrent box which seems to cap out at 7 MB/sec write speed. Even Steam tends to only download at 30-50 MB/sec most of the time. People tend to grossly overestimate how much bandwidth they need, especially non-technical people. Even a 100 Mbit connection is more than capable of letting a family of five all stream Netflix at the s…

I have a 970/390 Mbps link (France, Orange) that I took more for the fun than anything else. Despite having a lot of self hosted environnements I will never even come close to that with current equipment and technology.

It would take a huge leap in a service requirements to change that, and would mean that I have to change my server and probably switch

Re: 25 Gbit/s internet as a normal customer

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Post by neurostimulant »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #53

25 Gbit sounds nice, but even my 1 Gbit line is mostly wasted. I use a Raspberry Pi as my torrent box which seems to cap out at 7 MB/sec write speed. Even Steam tends to only download at 30-50 MB/sec most of the time. People tend to grossly overestimate how much bandwidth they need, especially non-technical people. Even a 100 Mbit connection is more than capable of letting a family of five all stream Netflix at the s…

I would pay a lot to not have to worry about bandwidth anymore. Too bad the only available ISP in my area only offers up to 50mbps even though they're already using a fiber line.

Re: 25 Gbit/s internet as a normal customer

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Post by branko_d »

Enginerrrd wrote: post #8
joshstrange wrote: post #5

So $843.60/yr ($70.3/mo) + a 1-time $361.54 fee? I'd take that deal in a heartbeat. I pay a little over $100 for 1Gbps symmetrical plus a static IP.

I'd take YOUR deal in a heartbeat. I pay $110/month for 75Mbps down / 10Mbps up and 300GB data. They also constantly harass me with upsells and raise prices 10% per year.

I currently live in Kazakhstan (Aktobe) and I pay 6000 KZT ($14) for 200 Mb/s symmetrical over fiber, no setup cost. I could get 500 Mb/s for 8000 KZT, but don't really feel any need for it.

It always puzzled me why internet in the US is so expensive. I heard the argument that the sheer size of the US makes the infrastructure expensive, but Kazakhstan is even "bigger" per capita, and not exactly known for being an "advanced economy", yet here we are...

Re: 25 Gbit/s internet as a normal customer

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Post by YaBomm »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #112
YaBomm wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the Rpi, the storage device might be your limiting factor... (not the storage device itself, but connection to it from the Pi)

It is, for sure. It's an old external hard drive.

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