The U.S. is now energy independent

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Feb 19, 2022, 1:36 AM UTC

throw0101a wrote: post #114

elihu wrote: post #105

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Ships can be made to burn just about anything as fuel, the main problem is just whether existing ships can burn different fuels without major re-engineering. Even electric shipping is possible, but would require substantial infrastructure investments (e.g. buoys in the middle of large oceans every so often connected to trans-oceanic power cables so the ships can recharge regularly). Electrified shipping will probably…

> Even electric shipping is possible, but would require substantial infrastructure investments (e.g. buoys in the middle of large oceans every so often connected to trans-oceanic power cables so the ships can recharge regularly). A lot has been said about hydrogen powered vehicles, but I don't think it will work for general use. Where it may be useful though is in 'industrial' transport. It's unlikely we'll see hydro…

Post by cbozeman » Sat, Feb 19, 2022, 8:37 AM UTC

bullen wrote: post #110

warlog wrote: post #91

Sigh. 1. A barrel of oil isn't just gas.. About half is for bunker oil, diesel and kerosene that runs boats, trucks and jets. That need isn't going away no matter how many batteries you make. The rest (40-50%) of the barrel is a waste stream that can be used as light gasoline, plastics and chemicals. We will always have the second half because we always need the first half. 2. As others have mentioned, all oil is not…

Yes, the US imports as much oil as it exports: quality in, shit out. And the wasted energy is enourmous to even barely preserve the quality of life. I think Russia is not invading Ukraine as much as the US is slowly (expanding NATO over decades) "invading" Russia because it desperately needs it's high EROEI sources to pretend we have "business as usual". To no benefit since war consumes too much energy. For the rest…

Post by avgcorrection » Sun, Feb 20, 2022, 5:17 PM UTC

emptysongglass wrote: post #124

avgcorrection wrote: post #119

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Looks like Putin wants back to the 1990 deal that Gorbachev and President Bush made and that American presidents broke: that Nato wouldn’t expand an inch to the east (to East Germany at the time). His demands will obviously not be met. But is Nato even considering any concessions? You don’t have to accept the initial demand (it’s supposed to be a negotiation, after all).

"In 2014, the former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev marked the 25th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin wall by noting in an interview that Nato’s enlargement 'was not discussed at all' at the time: 'Not a single Eastern European country raised the issue, not even after the Warsaw Pact ceased to exist in 1991. Western leaders didn’t bring it up, either.'" [1] [1] https://theconversation.com/ukraine-the-history-beh…