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Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by ahmed_ds »

I think I speak for the majority of people here.

Before the Spotify deal, you would just see couple of Joe Rogan clips on YouTube and you have sat through maybe 3-4 entire podcasts. You don't care much about MMA or you don't think comedians are that important/hypeworthy as the JRE fandom would claim.

After the Spotify deal you just slowly stopped even seeing the clips because for some reason you just don't care to search for them and YouTube stopped recommending new clips.

You would hear about some hot takes about Joe Rogan vs something but you just don't find it worthwhile to investigate or frankly having an opinion about them.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by enkid »

echelon wrote: post #107
MBCook wrote: post #48

Spotify has played this perfectly. First they spent $100m on a very controversial figure, just to get an exclusive contract. When he acted controversially they stood up for him, making plenty of people mad and getting others to disassociate themselves from Spotify (Young, Mitchell). Wouldn’t surprise me if they were having some quiet issues with sponsors/ads. Now they seem to be removing episodes, but reportedly not…

Every platform is eventually going to have to deal with this. The correct move is to be a free speech maximalist (in either political direction) until laws are broken. You can also make rules against directed harassment and threats. Tell the detractors that "it could just as easily be your side being silenced", because that's the honest truth. People will complain, but only the fringes will leave.

Free speech has nothing to do with it. Spotify paid him a $100M to provide a product according to their terms. The idea that this is a free speech issue is ridiculous and makes no sense. If it was a matter of access to the content, what you should be arguing for is not having an exclusive contract with Spotify, but use one of the million other services that allows anyone to download the episode.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by j4yav »

MattGaiser wrote: post #88
MBCook wrote: post #48

Spotify has played this perfectly. First they spent $100m on a very controversial figure, just to get an exclusive contract. When he acted controversially they stood up for him, making plenty of people mad and getting others to disassociate themselves from Spotify (Young, Mitchell). Wouldn’t surprise me if they were having some quiet issues with sponsors/ads. Now they seem to be removing episodes, but reportedly not…

I am not sure there is really a winning play in situations like this that does not result in substantial losses either way.

It is sarcasm.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by qaq »

I think this will lead to outcome that few people cheering for this are anticipating. Musk, Thiel etc. will back an alternative platform that will host JRE, Lex, Jordan Peterson etc. and in the long term it will win due to being less restrictive. Which in the long term is prob a positive thing.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by mrobins »

umvi wrote: post #45

So we've decided as a society that any opinion that doesn't conform to the majority needs to be silenced? Scary.

Spotify’s purchase of JRE turns them into his publisher/sponsor. When consumers and musicians cut ties they’re speaking with their $$ and saying they don’t want to support his content. That’s not the same as silencing or censoring him. There are countless open platforms he can speak his mind on.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by FeteCommuniste »

graderjs wrote: post #106

I'm not sure this website is accurate as Rogan so far has not said anything on Twitter or Instagram about this. Yet if true, this is such BS. It's hard not to see Rogan, with his massive and mostly bipartisan audience, yet still polarizing and controversial discussions, as a litmus test for how well the West really embraces dissent. We're supposed to have invented dissent, right? And Joe Rogan, he's our little free s…

> I'm not sure this website is accurate as Rogan so far has not said anything on Twitter or Instagram about this.

I checked for a couple of the episodes on Spotify (#1103 Tom Segura, #1218 Gad Saad) and could not find them, so it may be legit.

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