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MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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Larry Ellison is not happy today. Edit: let me explain. Larry bought mysql to save oracle from being outcompeted by a young entrepreneur. Who left after 2 years to create an even more competent DB. To add insult to the injury, this market value is below what they paid for mysql 15 years ago, which makes Larry look incompetent.

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Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

#132

How many database companies are out there that made it big? How many are based on FOSS? It seems like the lesson of “you can’t make money in a FOSS database (or file system)” keeps being learned and relearned the hard way.

MongoDB would be one that comes to mind which is public traded (https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/MDB/)

Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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post #100
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am surprised how low postgres ranks in those trends. I guess I have been in an echo chamber for too long, because my perception was that it was much more pervasive.

Netezza, Greenplum, Red Shift and CoachroachDB are all Postgres forks. Postgre is pretty popular as well, at least for the recruiters who spam me.

CockroachDB is not a fork of Postgres, it's a NewSQL database written from scratch, compatible with the PostgreSQL protocol, and aiming at being SQL compatible with Postgres.

I think you were thinking about YugabyteDB which is a wrapper/fork around Postgres.

Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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> MariaDB, Fast Growing, Popular Open Source Database Software Company No matter how I turn and adjust the parameters, MariaDB seems to be the least popular of the big databases on the market today ( https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=... ) and looking long-term (2004-preset), it seems like it's popularity is going down, not up ( https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=MariaDB ).…

I assume it's in the market where people actually pay for a database and make choice of software other than "what's in Debian".

Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

These days, most smaller users go with a managed DBaaS such as AWS RDS, and on RDS MySQL gets massively more usage than MariaDB. I build schema management software for MySQL and MariaDB, https://www.skeema.io , used by several hundred companies. Among my userbase, MariaDB is a tiny minority, to such an extent that I wonder if it's worthwhile to continue keeping up with their new quarterly release schedule.

> Simply track your desired schema state in a repo of CREATE statements, and the tool figures out how to apply any changes to your tables and routines. Wow, this sounds extremely useful, great job! Does anyone know anything like this for Postgres?

Thanks! I know of a couple Postgres tools that work in a declarative fashion: migra [1] and sqldef [2].

Migra is Postgres-specific. Its model is similar to Skeema's, in that the desired-state CREATEs are run in a temporary location and then introspected, to build an in-memory understanding of the desired state which can be diff'ed against the current actual state. (This approach has also been borrowed by other recent tools, including Prisma Migrate [3]). In this manner, the tool doesn't need a SQL parser, instead relying on the real DBMS to guarantee the CREATE is interpreted correctly with your exact DBMS version/flavor/settings.

In contrast, sqldef supports multiple databases, including Postgres and MySQL (among others). Unlike other tools, it uses a SQL parser-based approach to build its in-memory understanding of the desired state. As a DB professional, personally this approach scares me a bit, given the amount of nonstandard stuff in each DBMS's SQL dialect. But I'm inherently biased on this topic. And I will note sqldef's author is a core Ruby committer and JIT author, and is extremely skilled at parsers.

[1] https://databaseci.com/docs/migra

[2] https://github.com/k0kubun/sqldef

[3] https://github.com/prisma/prisma-engines/blob/main/migration...

Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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post #24

A public company will have a board of directors who set the direction of the company; as such what is to stop the board from directing that the license be changed?

All C corporations have a board of directors, not just publicly listed companies. If the BoD wanted to push to change the license they could have done that years ago.

Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

#138
post #87

My impression is that MariaDB has good ARM support out of the box. I am not sure about ARM support status of other popular DBs.

We tried using it as a drop in for MySQL docker containers on new ARM Macs and it is very slow, nearly as slow as emulating an x86 MySQL container.

Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

#139
post #4

The creator of MySQL named it after his daughter, "My". After it was forked, the fork was named after his other daughter, "Maria". He has three children, so we've got one more go at this with a MaxDB if needed. edit: I was wrong -- He already used MaxDB previously. We're out of names.

His final one should just be YourSQL.

I'm having trouble with YourSQL, but its now MySQL problem :(

Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

#140
post #64

Larry Ellison is not happy today. Edit: let me explain. Larry bought mysql to save oracle from being outcompeted by a young entrepreneur. Who left after 2 years to create an even more competent DB. To add insult to the injury, this market value is below what they paid for mysql 15 years ago, which makes Larry look incompetent.

to be fair, market value should have been obviously much higher when mariadb was not around. I would say his error was tactical : oracle is probably not capable of growing an opensource product which makes that acquisition a bad move
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