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Re: Tell HN: Twitter is growing increasingly unusable without an account

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Post by YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo »

AutumnCurtain wrote: post #34
digitalsushi wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On a cell phone, I can type "best driveway shovel" on my phone, and it will take me to google. Google will have an overlay that tells me searching for the best driveway shovels is better in an app. I close that overlay. The first hit is twitter. The second is reddit. I skip twitter. I get an overlay telling me to install a reddit app, or continue in the website. I click continue in website. There is an overlay tellin…

Old.reddit.com is the only remotely usable form of the website and seems to have none of the obnoxious popups.

i.reddit.com is still the best version.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter is growing increasingly unusable without an account

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Post by Loughla »

duffyjp wrote: post #96
ostenning wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I dont understand is why these companies are debasing their products integrity to scrape in more users. What Reddit doesn’t seem to realise is that right now there is a primed opportunity for a competitor to take its market share.

If reddit ever dropped the old.reddit option, that would be the last time I ever use the site. They must know the new (several years old now, I suppose) layout is awful. I can't understand the rational. Maybe it cost a fortune to build and it's sunk-cost fallacy thing.

My theory is that it's easy to hand-wave away those complaints as just coming from Luddites. You don't get the new layout, and are only complaining because you like the old layout and don't want to learn anything new.

Administratively, it feels good to know that I'm doing the right thing, and to know that you will eventually come around to the new layout design. You have to, because I'm right.

That's my theory. Smugness, maybe? Is that it? Overconfidence?

Re: Tell HN: Twitter is growing increasingly unusable without an account

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Post by superkuh »

Growing? Twitter stopped being usable years ago when they changed from being a HTML website to a javascript application you ran in your browsers VM. Now when you attempt to view it as a website there is no HTML to render. It's just a white page telling you to go away if you're not willing to be their product.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter is growing increasingly unusable without an account

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Post by Freskis »

digitalsushi wrote: post #25
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #5

> Unfortunately twitter is going the direction of quora, pinterest, facebook, and medium Don’t forget Reddit. Reddit’s login pop-ups are more aggressive than Twitter’s for me. > Now you can perhaps read ten tweets or replies to a linked tweet without an account before the same thing occurs Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but I don’t think any company is obligated to provide unlimited access for free without an account.…

On a cell phone, I can type "best driveway shovel" on my phone, and it will take me to google. Google will have an overlay that tells me searching for the best driveway shovels is better in an app. I close that overlay. The first hit is twitter. The second is reddit. I skip twitter. I get an overlay telling me to install a reddit app, or continue in the website. I click continue in website. There is an overlay tellin…

Reddit is a psychopath corporation. I cannot think of another description for a company with such a grotesque and obnoxious mobile experience. Pure unadulterated evil.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter is growing increasingly unusable without an account

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Post by golemotron »

torginus wrote: post #101
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #5

> Unfortunately twitter is going the direction of quora, pinterest, facebook, and medium Don’t forget Reddit. Reddit’s login pop-ups are more aggressive than Twitter’s for me. > Now you can perhaps read ten tweets or replies to a linked tweet without an account before the same thing occurs Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but I don’t think any company is obligated to provide unlimited access for free without an account.…

I disagree. When Reddit, Quora, Medium, Twitter started, they have posed themselves as privately owned public spaces, much like Wikipedia. This was the 'social' contract they presented to users. They built their monopolies on top of the goodwill of users. I'm pretty sure that subject matter experts who wrote extremely long-winded and well-researched articles on Roman battle tactics, did not do so with the intent, tha…

It's like Google search results, isn't it? Brands ruin themselves over time as they chase more market. We can be upset by this, but the bright side is that customer discontent eventually leads people to go to different products.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter is growing increasingly unusable without an account

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Post by trey-jones »

slightwinder wrote: post #80
jevoten wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but I don’t think any company is obligated to provide unlimited access for free without an account. If you’re trying to scroll deep into conversations or someone’s Tweets, it’s reasonable to expect that you’d need to become a user of the website. Oh of course. But then it should have been that way from the start . Instead they were user-friendly at first, and only once they'd grown eno…

> But then it should have been that way from the start. Twitter is 15 years old. You can't except them to remain unchanged forever. Priorities change, people change, goals change. Didn't they change CEO some time ago? Then the latest change might be even something from the new managment.

The problem is that a lot of companies are objectively making the user experience worse with the changes that they make. I don't know about how others respond to this. I'm not a Twitter user. When I can't easily access something linked on Twitter (or Facebook, or Instagram, or whatever) I just say "Oh well" and c-w.

From the capitalist perspective I guess it's just a decision based on lost revenue from eyeballs like mine going elsewhere vs. revenue/data gained by users who make an account that wouldn't otherwise.

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