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Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

fartcannon wrote: post #128

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If you consider Foxconn slave labor, maybe. Except Foxconn wages are generally considered to be good for the area (thus why so many employees do it seasonally for a few months during the ramp-up each year). It's a better factory than many.

Yes, the netting to prevent suicides looks really bad... until you consider Foxconn employs 1.2 million people. Their suicide rate once that is considered is lower than the general population. Perfect? No, but within reason.

Finally... every tech company uses Foxconn, from Intel to Google to AMD to Lenovo to Sony. Don't blame Apple when everyone is to blame.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by e4e78a06 »

sharikous wrote: post #87
zerkten wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems they have arrested some of the decline since Jony Ive left. The newest MacBook Pro has gone back to a formula that works well with processors that blow away the competition. Things are less rosy on the software side though.

They had an exodus of top engineers lately. I suspect the hardware gap will shrink in a few years and the software is, as you say, not rosy. The decline for pro users will continue, I think. Of course a behemoth of 2 T$ won't fail tomorrow

They also poached the head architect from Arm. Now that M1/M1 Pro/Max are out I think a lot of top engineers have seen their project to completion and are moving on to new interesting things. No amount of money is going to bring them back but you can be sure they'll be back in 3-4 years if Apple has a compelling project (like say, their AR/VR headset).

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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lukewrites wrote: post #20
r0fl wrote: post #3

Services, which include iCloud, Apple Music, search licensing and App Store fees, continued growing strongly, rising 25% annually to $19.52 billion. Keeps blowing my mind how consistently services keep growing. Highest margins too. Just printing money!

I feel like I get great value for my Apple One Premier subscription. I already was paying for the largest available iCloud storage. Paying a bit more and being able to host email addresses for private domains, plus having iCloud Private Relay, plus a music service (and my library in the cloud), plus Apple TV+, plus Fitness (use it occasionally but would never pay for it on its own) is a no-brainer for me.

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Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by opportune »

lukewrites wrote: post #20
r0fl wrote: post #3

Services, which include iCloud, Apple Music, search licensing and App Store fees, continued growing strongly, rising 25% annually to $19.52 billion. Keeps blowing my mind how consistently services keep growing. Highest margins too. Just printing money!

I feel like I get great value for my Apple One Premier subscription. I already was paying for the largest available iCloud storage. Paying a bit more and being able to host email addresses for private domains, plus having iCloud Private Relay, plus a music service (and my library in the cloud), plus Apple TV+, plus Fitness (use it occasionally but would never pay for it on its own) is a no-brainer for me.

I have to give huge props to Apple for not shoving ads for these features down my throat. I have an iPhone, Apple Watch, AirPods, a personal MBP (which I rarely use because it’s old), and a 2019 MBP for work. I don’t recall ever seeing a pop up prompting me to use these things, and if I did, it must have only happened once and I just mindlessly disabled it. I had not even heard of Apple One premier until now.

I have a windows desktop for gaming and Microsoft seems to constantly try to push their bullshit. Whether it’s opening edge at start/changing my default browser, making me use the Microsoft Store or Microsoft accounts (they do this for Minecraft now, and the install experience through downloading minecraft from the web is now hilariously broken), or even shilling something at the log in screen, Microsoft just does not give a fuck about making their UX seem cheap to push their bloat.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by michaelmarion »

_ph_ wrote: post #130
Eric_WVGG wrote: post #91

25.1% Mac growth. For professionals and enthusiasts, you either just got your M1, you’re saving for one, or waiting on the Pro Desktops. I’m curious to see if there’s any change to the replacement rate of Macs. It seems normal for people to use the same laptop for four or more years — a far sight longer than the two-year life expectancy of laptops twenty years ago, but about half of the replacement rate of smartphone…

Yeah, 27" iMac owner here, desperately waiting for an upgrade. If Apple had been a bit more open about the road map, I might have bought an air around the release date to bridge the time till the iMac update. Wouldn't say no to a (smaller) Mac Pro with an external display (if Apple offered that) either.

This. I want an M1 Max in a Mac mini, and especially an Apple-branded display or three that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by tedunangst »

chunkyguy wrote: post #67
ericmay wrote: post #28

Quarter after quarter Tim Cook just mic drops these earnings. Remember all the “Apple is doomed, Tim is a bean counter” comments when Jobs handed over the reigns? Yea. Ok.

Who is surprized by these numbers? Since Cook took over from Jobs earnings are the only thing they're focused on. The product quality, developer experience, user experience,.. everything that made Apple great is declining.

Everyone who said they only care about short term profits three, six, nine... months ago.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by in3d »

thewarrior wrote: post #32
bigtones wrote: post #25

Their huge China derived revenue is an increasing problem for Apple from a company stance perspective. They have to increasingly walk a tightrope between servicing that market, kowtowing to the Chinese government, and upholding the values of a California based US Company.

This is the case for all companies in the world eventually. China will overtake the US economy in the next 5 years.

The current prediction in terms of GDP is 8 years: https://www.voanews.com/amp/chinas-economy-could-overtake-us...

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by lotsofpulp »

nomel wrote: post #110
lotsofpulp wrote: post #85

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And IBM lost that status after they decided to tank the relative quality of their product. I presume Apple will suffer the same fate.

> I presume Apple will suffer the same fate. Why? Has there been any trend to indicate they're headed in this direction?

I didn’t write that properly. I meant I expect Apple to eventually get dethroned, just like IBM was. Not that it is currently on a downward trajectory.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by fartcannon »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #131
fartcannon wrote: post #128

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If you consider Foxconn slave labor, maybe. Except Foxconn wages are generally considered to be good for the area (thus why so many employees do it seasonally for a few months during the ramp-up each year). It's a better factory than many. Yes, the netting to prevent suicides looks really bad... until you consider Foxconn employs 1.2 million people. Their suicide rate once that is considered is lower than the general…

Yes blame Apple as they have the most money and thus the most responsibility to do better. 3 trillion dollars is worth how many human lives?

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by hotpotamus »

aetherspawn wrote: post #5
jb1991 wrote: post #4

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Just wish the quality control was the same as in the Jobs era.

I have never bought an Apple device that so much as had a spec of dust in the box. But I’ve never had a Dell or HP laptop come without a bezel scratch or something like that. So in my books, Apple are still a league ahead on quality, even.

My 12" Macbook's keyboard basically never worked and then the battery decided it wasn't happy and decided to bloat out which pushed out the bottom panel of the laptop. Really put me off their laptops, though I'm still a fan of iOS devices.
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