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Re: Open-Sourcing our Firmware

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Post by DrBenCarson »

reacharavindh wrote: post #106
bo1024 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You nailed it, battery is the only downside I’ve had, not awful but probably say 3 hours of video playback, or 5-6 hours of web use. Haven’t used it unplugged all that much so very rough guesses. Bigger problem with my fedora install at least is battery draining while the lid is closed. Overall great machine Edit: I may be missing software updates that improve this, no idea

I very much wanted to hear about this and damn :-( Video playback must be hardware accelerated by now and be super efficient. Another worry was about low power sleep modes and waking up, and looks like it is not solved too. I might have to suck it up and buy the Mac for my needs after all. I have my trusty Linux desktop for all my big compute needs. I was hoping to make the mobile machine also run Linux, but the spec…

* crisp display

* nice battery life

* Linux friendliness

Not elusive at all, you can find an M1 MacBook Pro at any Apple, Best Buy, or Costco store.

Re: Open-Sourcing our Firmware

#132

Post by varispeed »

tomtheelder wrote: post #74
varispeed wrote: post #55

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This is I don't understand. Why laptop manufacturers neglect probably the most important thing that is the keyboard? Almost every single laptop that comes out these days looks like the keyboard is an afterthought. Why can't I have full size cursor keys? Pg Up, Pg Down, Home, End and few others?

I suspect majority of users never touch Pg Up/Pg Dn/Home/End and all those other keys over there. For arrow keys, the compacted layout is helpful when designing a space constrained keyboard, and it's totally usable.

Wouldn't that be because these keys are difficult to use in typical laptop keyboard, as in self fulfilling prophecy?

Re: Open-Sourcing our Firmware

#133

Post by gtsop »

ohazi wrote: post #124

I've been so happy to see what Framework has been doing lately, and really want to support them, but I already have a desktop as my primary computer and two Thinkpads that are already set up nicely, but that I rarely use. I moved from 15" laptops to 14" when Lenovo added the numpad on the larger variant, and 14" is about as small as I want to go. I kind of want to buy a framework though, just to support them? But I h…

Similar feelings, yes. I don't mind the size at all. It's just that I've got a sweet thinkpad x13 already. My next laptop though, surely a framework (if they are still around)

Re: Open-Sourcing our Firmware

#134

Post by BlackLotus89 »

dheera wrote: post #57
rnk wrote: post #53

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Seems too good to be true. Reasonable prices, upgradable, no soldered ram. So has it been a reliable Linux laptop, what's the battery life with your options?

I've been using a Framework laptop for a month on Ubuntu 21.10 and pretty happy with it. Some hiccups but mostly answered by digging through forums. Battery life in operation is excellent, but it does drain 30% in 8 hours when on suspend which is a bit much. Not a dealbreaker but hope this can be solved.

> cat /sys/power/mem_sleep

If deep isn't selected do so and try again. You could have problems with your nvme coming out of suspend though.

I got similar problems on my pinebook pro, but sadly this is all too common.

Re: Open-Sourcing our Firmware

#135

Post by xvector »

reacharavindh wrote: post #106
bo1024 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You nailed it, battery is the only downside I’ve had, not awful but probably say 3 hours of video playback, or 5-6 hours of web use. Haven’t used it unplugged all that much so very rough guesses. Bigger problem with my fedora install at least is battery draining while the lid is closed. Overall great machine Edit: I may be missing software updates that improve this, no idea

I very much wanted to hear about this and damn :-( Video playback must be hardware accelerated by now and be super efficient. Another worry was about low power sleep modes and waking up, and looks like it is not solved too. I might have to suck it up and buy the Mac for my needs after all. I have my trusty Linux desktop for all my big compute needs. I was hoping to make the mobile machine also run Linux, but the spec…

The M1 MacBook Air honestly feels so far ahead of any other laptop I've used that it's not even funny. Fanless, powerful, absolutely bonkers battery life.

M1 + Nix is ideal, IMO.

Re: Open-Sourcing our Firmware

#136

Post by mmastrac »

ohazi wrote: post #124

I've been so happy to see what Framework has been doing lately, and really want to support them, but I already have a desktop as my primary computer and two Thinkpads that are already set up nicely, but that I rarely use. I moved from 15" laptops to 14" when Lenovo added the numpad on the larger variant, and 14" is about as small as I want to go. I kind of want to buy a framework though, just to support them? But I h…

Adding my vote: I'll definitely jump on a Framework 14+" here. My eyes cannot work well w/a 13" without glasses. If I had better near vision (will be all over the lens-softening eye drops) it would be a different story.

Re: Open-Sourcing our Firmware

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Post by Kinrany »

DrBenCarson wrote: post #131
reacharavindh wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I very much wanted to hear about this and damn :-( Video playback must be hardware accelerated by now and be super efficient. Another worry was about low power sleep modes and waking up, and looks like it is not solved too. I might have to suck it up and buy the Mac for my needs after all. I have my trusty Linux desktop for all my big compute needs. I was hoping to make the mobile machine also run Linux, but the spec…

* crisp display * nice battery life * Linux friendliness Not elusive at all, you can find an M1 MacBook Pro at any Apple, Best Buy, or Costco store.

M1 are not Linux-friendly at all.

Re: Open-Sourcing our Firmware

#138

Post by treesknees »

Shared404 wrote: post #47
p_l wrote: post #39

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FCC doesn't prevent you from opening the firmware (now, trade secrets inside is another thing) - they just do not allow unlicensed devices i.e. you can't just build your own radio firmware and have it operate legally.

So open firmware from the manufacturer is fine, but if you were to modify it and re-flash it yourself you would be breaking the law? I guess that makes sense, thanks for the clarification!

I don't think that makes sense at all. One major part of Part 15 from the FCC covers this. A device would fall under the category as an intentional radiator in part 15.1. And in part 15.23, considered a home-built device.

§ 15.23 Home-built devices.

(a) Equipment authorization is not required for devices that are not marketed, are not constructed from a kit, and are built in quantities of five or less for personal use.

(b) It is recognized that the individual builder of home-built equipment may not possess the means to perform the measurements for determining compliance with the regulations. In this case, the builder is expected to employ good engineering practices to meet the specified technical standards to the greatest extent practicable. The provisions of § 15.5 apply to this equipment.

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-47/chapter-I/subchapter-A...

This entire part from the FCC basically states you don't need a license to operate in the frequencies for wifi, bluetooth, etc. You're not breaking a law by recompiling the firmware for your wifi module to fix a bug. You'd be breaking the law if you did so with the intention of operating within licensed spectrum/power levels, for example.

Re: Open-Sourcing our Firmware

#139

Post by jonaustin »

sneak wrote: post #99
rnk wrote: post #53

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Seems too good to be true. Reasonable prices, upgradable, no soldered ram. So has it been a reliable Linux laptop, what's the battery life with your options?

The screen is very low-res and the GPU is weak. This is why I don't have one. If you don't care about pixels (seems common in PC-land), this is probably a good thing re: power consumption. I look at text all day, every day, and want it to be high res. It's been high res on my Macs for half a decade, and my XPS is even better. I'll get one of these once they fix the screen.

This 'low-res' comment makes no sense, I'll never go back to 1080p, but 2256x1504 is plenty IMO for text (I live in a CLI all day pretty much).
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